"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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She has a boyfriend!!! WTF??

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I cannot ****ing believe this! It would have been one thing to be turned down cause I waited too long to talk to her, but a ****ing boyfriend?? This girl is in like 3 of my classes and she has been staring at me like all semester long. Not just little glances where I barely catch her, but I saw her gazing at me all the freaking time with this dreamy look. I talked to her a few times before briefly, but today I finally had a chance to get to know her a bit and she brings up this freaking boyfriend! I know maybe she is lying about that. I am so ****ing confused. She is still all smiles and seems to like me when I talk to her. This is so bizarre. She even changed the route she walked after class so I could bump into her and walked slow so I can catch up to her. I am guilty of one-itis I know that, but what the hell, she is a very quiet, innocent girl and she leads me on like this??
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Ace of Flames

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Remember: lots of girls have bf's... just to say they have a bf. When something better comes along, they'll upgrade. Don't freak over it, that'll be a deal breaker. Play it smooth, and she'll do all the work of dumping her bf and becoming availiable for YOU.
 

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Yeah man, I hope so. It just happened so I feel shocked about it. What do you think is a course of action from here? BTW, after she said that, I sorta ignored her, and she re-started the convo with a dumb question so I don't know what to make of that.
 

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I had no less than 2 girls like that.. Back then, they took attention then left me broke, nowadays I don't give a damn if they have a boyfriend, girlfriend, or married. :D
 

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this is why you need to learn to treat all women in generally the same way, married single ugly old, anything other than non family gets this treatment, you need to be light hearted.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Zero Hero said:
She even changed the route she walked after class so I could bump into her and walked slow so I can catch up to her. I am guilty of one-itis I know that, but what the hell, she is a very quiet, innocent girl and she leads me on like this??
All those shy kinda girls do that. It means she thinks your hot not that she actually likes you. Pretend you didn't hear the BF thing and then ask her out if you want.
 

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Ace of Flames said:
Remember: lots of girls have bf's... just to say they have a bf. When something better comes along, they'll upgrade. Don't freak over it, that'll be a deal breaker. Play it smooth, and she'll do all the work of dumping her bf and becoming availiable for YOU.
Sure they do and some men who are husbands or boyfriends usually STFU about their status when they want some side action. Girls who want some side action or see you as a potential typically never mention other men but girls who do have their b1tch shields set at maximum and see you as a male friend.
 

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Hitman10000 said:
Sure they do and some men who are husbands or boyfriends usually STFU about their status when they want some side action. Girls who want some side action or see you as a potential typically never mention other men but girls who do have their b1tch shields set at maximum and see you as a male friend.
She's a quiet shy girl, so she's probably not all that hip to the game, if you know what I mean. He probably just asked general questions about her and she didn't want to lie.

Even if it is how you say, b!tch shields can all be disarmed, as long as you know what to do. Its not over till its over.
 

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Thanks for the feedback guys. Just to elaborate on this a bit. I even caught her stalking me. I usually go to this student center between classes cause I live off-campus and she sees me walk into this building a lot since its right after class. So one day I am there doing my homework and stuff and I look up and I see her walking down the hall, then soon as we make eye contact she obviously gets nervous and she turns to this water fountain and acts like she is there to fill up her water, but this is on the 2nd floor and nobody would go up to the 2nd floor merely to fill their water lol. Then there's a lecture class and one day I show up right before class when everyone is there and I see her furiously eyeballing the room (its a pretty big lecture) then soon as she notices I have arrived I see this coy smile and she turns away (she had to look behind her to even see me). It's just obvious stuff like that. And then the countless times I see her looking at me out of the corner of her eye during lecture and times I happen to turn my eyes and she is staring right at me. Then there is this other class where I sat in the back and she sat in front, and soon as I opened my mouth and started talking to this other girl next to me, she'd turn and look at me soon as she heard my voice. Her behavior is so puzzling. Even though she voluntarily mentioned the boyfriend, I'm just gonna have to assume she is interested, but just wants to be honest about her situation.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Just ask her out

If she says, well I have a boyfriend

You say: "I'm not interested in your boyfriend, I'm interested in you. Why are you talking about relationships so soon."


If you dont have the balls to ask her out just go shoot yourself.

Ow, and one more thing. Don't trip out because a girl has a boyfriend, you don't even know her on a romantic level yet and you're already getting emotionally immobilised. WTF?!?
 

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Just talk to her some more and then ask for her digits. What is the worst that could happen?
 

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2 THINGS:

1) Zero Hero - she was single for a while, and while you were busy playing staring games with her all semester, she got tired of waiting for you and she got a boyfriend (a guy who actually initiated something) - u made it sound u spent weeks just exchanging smiles and not talking!!! so THATS where you went wrong

2) whats the worst that could happen if you kept talking to her while she has a bf? well, HER BF CAN KICK YOUR ASS.......thats not the likeliest thing to happen, but just remember that people end up murdered and on the news because of a jealous bf killing/shooting the guy that his girl was fvcking behind his back

so next time, dont naively and stupidly say "whats the worst that could happen if you got her #" (that was for il cielo)
 

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Quit automatically equating shy & quiet with honest & non-manipulative.
 

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skip2mylou781 said:
so next time, dont naively and stupidly say "whats the worst that could happen if you got her #" (that was for il cielo)


No. You don't hear on the news agry bf killing people. You have to put it in your own terms, you see your girl talking to a guy, are you gonna take your piece out and start shooting? Doubt it, you'd probably dump the girl (if you're AFC) or pretend like nothing going on (if you're a player). In rare cases an AFC might get pissed off, but angry towards you? Only if you challenge him. :nono:

My advice go for the girl even if she has a bf or married, but not infront of the guy and not if the guy is bouncer. Guy comes and catches you, talk to the guy, if he's a bouncer make friends. Always good to know a bouncer.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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This is what you do exchange numbers. Instead of waiting the normal week, wait about a week and a half then call. When you get her on the phone kick your game. DO NOT BRING UP THE BOYFRIEND!!! All that will do is disrupte your flow and get her mind on her boyfriend. Try to get her to go out that night. Take her for drinks, go back to her place and smash away.

If during the conversation she brings up the boyfriend or when you ask her out she brings up the boyfriend it's a dead issue. Move on.
 

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skip2mylou781 said:
2 THINGS:

2) whats the worst that could happen if you kept talking to her while she has a bf? well, HER BF CAN KICK YOUR ASS.......thats not the likeliest thing to happen, but just remember that people end up murdered and on the news because of a jealous bf killing/shooting the guy that his girl was fvcking behind his back

so next time, dont naively and stupidly say "whats the worst that could happen if you got her #" (that was for il cielo)
You know skip a lot of times girls use things called sh*t tests to filter through guys who are interested in her. A common test is oh I have a boyfriend which is what the original poster said happened. If you have the kind of attitude you are telling us about that of a boyfriend kicking your ass, you are in a sense rejecting yourself (especially considering the IOIs this guy is getting). This is sad. :(

Anyways who said anything about him having sex with her, getting a number doesnt equal having sex im afraid. :)
 

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never once have i had success with a girl after i asked for her # and she said "i wont give it to you because i have a bf"

what kinda keyboard jockeying BS is this????

saying i have a bf isnt a shyt test. it means TWO things and TWO things only

1)she has a boyfriend
2)shes not interested

also, if a girl says she is SINGLE, it means TWO things

1)shes single
2)she has a bf shes willing to cheat on

you AFCs make things so complicated its not even funny. A girl wont be giving a shyt test to some RANDOM guy she just met but flat out LYING to say she has a bf when he asks for the #

just WOW
 

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You should play it cool. Don't start acting like a geek. She told you she has a boyfriend flat out. So you flat out don't ask her for a number right away but you play it cool for a bit and she will defintley know that the game is on. This is what seduction is all about. This is how you should say it after you finish classes:

" hey I am going to get something to eat at a (Bar - Insert name here) down the street from here, you are welcome to join me".

If she says yes then its game on. You order some nachos some drinks, have a few jokes and laughs, kino her, play a game of pool or darts, and if everything goes well you either go for it and kiss her or just ask her for her number.
 

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also, why dont u go talk and get #s from 10 SINGLE girls so you won't develop a stupid oneitis for the girl who has a boyfriend!
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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