"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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She calls me from the bar w/ her friends if I want to meet her out?

Jumpman23

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So she is already out w/ her friends at a bar, calls if I want to meet her out. Only thing I would probably go meet her out by myself. Is is okay, even though I will be w/ her friends, I meet her at the bar by myself.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Poonani Maker

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No, it is Not ok if you barely know her. She should be entering your world with your friends if you're just starting out with her. This is called leading the woman. She'll be leading you and will have no respect for you if you join her tonight on her terms, Unless you've got a ton of charisma and can make her friends like you better than they like her.
 

MotownMack

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^^^I am with Poonani on this one.

Is this an online thing?

When I meet girls out for dates for the first time (or the first date after we've met once or twice), unless we are part of a mutual social circle, I do it alone.

When it comes to online dating, I am even more adamant. Lose the water wings... time to grow up and be a big girl. You wanna meet me? Then do it alone. I want to date a woman, not a little girl.

Lack of confidence can be as unattractive in woman as it is in men. I am not looking to take care of some ho.

If you do it, you're not only having to impress her, you're also trying to make a favorable impression on 5 of her friends. Fvck that.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Jumpman23

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it actually wasn't a bad thing, I've known her before. Talked to her friends briefly, we kind of talked to ourselves at the bar. Better than I expected.
 

Effington

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Looks like I'm playing devil's advocate, then.

"F" social proof and "entering worlds". If you're cool, and she's calling you to come hang out, do it. Be yourself, which is an awesome, up-beat guy who is cool with everyone, including her friends, and any random person you encounter at the bar. While I think there is validity with her seeing that you're "not a loser" by having friends and your own stuff to do, if she's judging you based on that, that's just something you can bust her on for. Not everyone needs to be at parties every Friday and Saturday, and I would argue that it's potentially a bad thing if you do.
 
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