"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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she bit the hook, i reeled her in, and my ship is sinking...

BustedKnucks

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It's been a while since I've posted here, almost a year, but I'm facing a girl that's got me stumped.

The Meeting:

She works with me, but I'm a manager in a different department, I first saw her when I was passing her desk a little before Halloween and approached by asking for one of the tootsie-rolls in a bowl on her desk. We flirted briefly and I left. The next Monday I went by her workspace deliberately and did some more flirting and asked her out to dinner. She agreed, and my buddy who digs her friend came along and the four of us made it a double date.

The Result:

I treated everyone to dinner at John Harvard's and got us all pretty buzzed. After dinner she and I returned to my place for a sloppy drunk hook-up, but she didn't sleep over. She was pretty open to physical contact, but nothing between the thighs.

We hung out a few more times, alternating who called who, going out to eat both just the two of us and as a group with other people from work, going to parties, etc. for the last couple of weeks, each night ending in a hook-up but no sex. She mentioned she had broken up with her ex two months ago, but made it clear that she'd had no contact with him since then and was actively avoiding it.

The Problem:

Today she came to my house in the afternoon for what was pretty much the first time we hung out during daylight hours. Off the bat I was in trouble because both my allergies were acting up badly, and she said she'd have to leave by 8 to go to dinner with her girlfriends (making it obvious I wasn't invited), so I ate a few Claritins before she got here, brushed my teeth, and washed my face. We decided to watch a movie, and she picked The Break Up out of my DVD collection. She'd already seen it and I thought it sucked, but I used a few of the scenes to insinuate some things to her, but to no avail. For the entire time we made very little physical contact, and no kissing at all. I began to see disaster approaching, but at 8 o'clock when I walked her out, we did do some serious kissing outside her car. Then she asked me to call her at 10:30 so she'd have an excuse to leave her dinner party early and come out with me for a while, still, after the relatively uneventful movie I'm not too keen on a worse ending to the night.

She's told me she plays cards, and usually on tuesdays I can get a late-night poker game going with some of my guy friends. If I do call her back later, most likely I'll invite her to that, what my real question is, does anyone think that this "courtship" can advance past innocent hook-ups into something more fun, or is her firm resistance to sexual encounters not just innocence, but the foundation for disaster?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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pvf94

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What do you got to lose? If she's open to touch, and making out with you....I think you could work your way to home plate. Just play your cards right (no pun indended =P) Unless ofcourse she specifically stated she does not want you inside her, if thats the case looks like you got a challenge on your hands. Good luck!
 

Boschy

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If you have kissed a few times and she still hangs around you, then she may be 'saving it' until she is sure you are not just after a one-night stand.

A bit of push-pull technique might help you escalate. Also I think you might be being too needy and clingy, therefore break contact with her for a week and let her wonder what you're doing. You don't seem to be a challenge at all to her at present.
 
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