"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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sexually kino'ed chick and said she doesn't let guys do that but 'trusts' me, f.zone?

nando

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I grabbed her hips and she said she normally wouldn't let a guy do that but she trusts me cuz I have "good intentions". Does that mean I am in the friend zone? She does kino by grabbing my shoulders and arms but aside from that she is pretty conservative girl.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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SharinganUser

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Are you seriously asking this question??? You had a green light. When she said she "trusts you" it meant she trusts you to **** her.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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nando

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thanks for the responses guys. The reason I thought she might have put me in the friendzone is she never really initiates convos with me, and her responses to my sms's (if she does respond) are u usually really short answers. She always talks about how great a friend I am, I feel like the gay friend who gets to grope her or some ****. The only thing that makes me think maybe I have a chance is she is very curious about my sex life and past gfs. This is very confusing for me guys. :(
 

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nando said:
I grabbed her hips and she said she normally wouldn't let a guy do that but I'm good
GREEN LIGHT INDEED! if you didn't know the whole story!

nando said:
I feel like the gay friend who gets to grope her or some ****. The only thing that makes me think maybe I have a chance is she is very curious about my sex life and past gfs. This is very confusing for me guys.
RED LIGHT! You have no confidence and are on a message board asking for help because your confused. (I'm no exception) If you really feel this way( gay friend ) around her then I'm sure you act this way around her and she was telling you not to get any ideas. If you feel like a gay friend then you act like a gay friend and your treated like a gay friend. Do you have any hope? I dunno but I do know guys don't understand their feelings sometimes and maybe your just posting and asking the " what if " questions. That alone is a no no because a true Don Juan doesn't focus on the what ifs. Don't post what if's but post what IS(how you act around her), and then you can be accessed more accurately. Also, how old are you two?
 
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