"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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sexually kino'ed chick and said she doesn't let guys do that but 'trusts' me, f.zone?

nando

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I grabbed her hips and she said she normally wouldn't let a guy do that but she trusts me cuz I have "good intentions". Does that mean I am in the friend zone? She does kino by grabbing my shoulders and arms but aside from that she is pretty conservative girl.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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SharinganUser

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Are you seriously asking this question??? You had a green light. When she said she "trusts you" it meant she trusts you to **** her.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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nando

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thanks for the responses guys. The reason I thought she might have put me in the friendzone is she never really initiates convos with me, and her responses to my sms's (if she does respond) are u usually really short answers. She always talks about how great a friend I am, I feel like the gay friend who gets to grope her or some ****. The only thing that makes me think maybe I have a chance is she is very curious about my sex life and past gfs. This is very confusing for me guys. :(
 

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nando said:
I grabbed her hips and she said she normally wouldn't let a guy do that but I'm good
GREEN LIGHT INDEED! if you didn't know the whole story!

nando said:
I feel like the gay friend who gets to grope her or some ****. The only thing that makes me think maybe I have a chance is she is very curious about my sex life and past gfs. This is very confusing for me guys.
RED LIGHT! You have no confidence and are on a message board asking for help because your confused. (I'm no exception) If you really feel this way( gay friend ) around her then I'm sure you act this way around her and she was telling you not to get any ideas. If you feel like a gay friend then you act like a gay friend and your treated like a gay friend. Do you have any hope? I dunno but I do know guys don't understand their feelings sometimes and maybe your just posting and asking the " what if " questions. That alone is a no no because a true Don Juan doesn't focus on the what ifs. Don't post what if's but post what IS(how you act around her), and then you can be accessed more accurately. Also, how old are you two?
 
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