"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Sex With Your 2nd Cousin

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lol i'd **** a cousin if she was hot enough. could give 2 ****s. do you understnad just how prevlant cousin ****ing is in history? the entire rothschild family married off themselves to cousins for a very long time.

well personally i couldn't do a cousin i was like really close to that would be like ****ign a sister. but like a cousin that lives out of town, shiiiit. lol. she can get it.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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LOL just finished a Goethe novel about a girl who wants to marry her UNCLE but then decides to marry her cousin instead..and nobody bats an eye. This is the nobility, too.

I once made out with a 2nd cousin but she wasn't related to me by blood...not sure how I'd handle it if she was.

Personally, I don't see anything wrong with the OP - you should be worried about how your family might react, not this board.
 

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backbreaker said:
lol i'd **** a cousin if she was hot enough. could give 2 ****s. do you understnad just how prevlant cousin ****ing is in history? the entire rothschild family married off themselves to cousins for a very long time.

well personally i couldn't do a cousin i was like really close to that would be like ****ign a sister. but like a cousin that lives out of town, shiiiit. lol. she can get it.

I'm sure horny people have banged horses and goats for 1,000 years, still doesn't mean I'll do it
 

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Loool if you wanna smash your second cousin go right ahead. Just be prepared for whatever consequences may result from it.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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If you want to keep it in the family, go ahead be my guest! I think it's disgusting and would never have sex with a family member.
 

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American culture has attached an extreme stigma to it. Go to other countries outside of America and Europe and it's not a big deal.

I'd say tap it. But, consider what your family would think, and what you want out of it, because there's gonna be more drama there than any other chick.
 

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"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Plutoman said:
American culture has attached an extreme stigma to it. Go to other countries outside of America and Europe and it's not a big deal.
Not so! Compare this map of consanguinous marriages with this map of world Islam. It's essentially the same. Screwing one's family members is a practice condoned only by Muslims and the (Sephardic and Bukharian) Jews who live among them. The line from Nigeria to Pakistan contains some of the most rabidly fanatical violence and bizarre customs (such as female circumcision). That's also the most Muslim area of the world.

Never make the mistake of conflating Islamic society with Christian society. In fact, Arabic has no word for "incest." Screwing one's own mother is "harem," meaning "forbidden," but no one checks up or does anything about it. When the baby comes, everyone's supposed to repeat whatever lie is most convenient to save face.
 
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backbreaker said:
lol i'd **** a cousin if she was hot enough. could give 2 ****s. do you understnad just how prevlant cousin ****ing is in history? the entire rothschild family married off themselves to cousins for a very long time.

well personally i couldn't do a cousin i was like really close to that would be like ****ign a sister. but like a cousin that lives out of town, shiiiit. lol. she can get it.
That's what I'm saying man, you all are a picky bunch
 

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it isn't 1342 anymore. you no longer have to get with your cousin because there are so many ways to meet people that are not related to us these days.

i'd break my cousin's face!
 

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I once got approached randomly by a woman who shared the same surname as me. We agreed to have dinner at her place to talk about our families.
So I went over and we worked out that even though our surnames were uncommon, we didn't share any of the same relatives.
We had a good laugh and drank too much wine, then she asked me if I'd like to stay the night!
I was pretty drunk but I crapped myself, made a bumbling excuse and drove home. Bad decision but I was freaked out and had to leave.

This was pre-red pill days though and in hindsight, if I had my time again, I reckon I'd do it. She was at least an HB8. Still kicking myself! Lol
 

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Greasy Pig said:
I once got approached randomly by a woman who shared the same surname as me. We agreed to have dinner at her place to talk about our families.
So I went over and we worked out that even though our surnames were uncommon, we didn't share any of the same relatives.
We had a good laugh and drank too much wine, then she asked me if I'd like to stay the night!
I was pretty drunk but I crapped myself, made a bumbling excuse and drove home. Bad decision but I was freaked out and had to leave.
So you met a chick with with your surname and crapped yourself? Your last name wouldn't be "Schitz" would it?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Ha ha, I wasn't that drunk. Then again, a wise man once said you truly haven't been drunk unless you shyt yourself.
Looks like I'll have to keep trying....
 

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The question must be addressed; at what degree were consanguineous marriages counted? Were these all close - 4th degree or less?

There's just more to the tale than just numbers of marriages by relatives. It is a scientific proof that getting with a family member with significant degrees of difference in the family tree is not statistically likely to matter. In this case, a second cousin is reasonably well-removed, and thus the only stigma against it is culture - there's no scientific reason not to tap 'dat ass, to put it bluntly.

You do have a point with religion and Islam - however, it's not really the place for that type of discussion.

While I can understand a culture stigma against close family, a stigma against a case like this has no basis of fact. They have very little blood in common. The fact remains that in order to date a second cousin, he is not dealing with any issues of being related, but rather dealing with the cultural stigma from his own family. Oh, and let's not forget that science only matters if kids result. Birth control, thank you. Tap 'dat, and enjoy it, and don't have kids. Problem solved.
 

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Plutoman said:
The question must be addressed; at what degree were consanguineous marriages counted? Were these all close - 4th degree or less?
I read the original study a couple of years ago. I believe this map is of first-cousin marriages or closer. There's a table with more data.

Plutoman said:
There's just more to the tale than just numbers of marriages by relatives. It is a scientific proof that getting with a family member with significant degrees of difference in the family tree is not statistically likely to matter. In this case, a second cousin is reasonably well-removed, and thus the only stigma against it is culture - there's no scientific reason not to tap 'dat ass, to put it bluntly.
Interesting that you trust "scientific proof" that there's a demonstrable risk of congenital disease from inbreeding. A man could avoid that risk if he avoided copulating with about 40 of the 3,485,040,790 women in the world. Since the probability of disease is greater than the rarity of a man's cousins, the risk is unacceptable. That is, if you give any credibility to "scientific proof" from statistics that don't support your point of view.

It's unconscionable to take the benefits from some action but shunt the risks to someone else. Even worse if that someone else is created by the very act of taking the benefits.

Plutoman said:
You do have a point with religion and Islam - however, it's not really the place for that type of discussion.
You are the one who asserted that only Americans stigmatize sex with close relatives. I brought in evidence to the contrary -- evidence that cannot be dissociated from religion.

Plutoman said:
Oh, and let's not forget that science only matters if kids result. Birth control, thank you. Tap 'dat, and enjoy it, and don't have kids. Problem solved.
Not so fast! Why do you think there's no psychological damage to both of them when he (1) knowingly seduces a relative, (2) starts a sexual relationship that cannot possibly go anywhere, and (3) sets both of them up for extreme embarrassment WHEN NOT IF she blabbers about it?

Besides, if they think sex is OK, they're not going to be squeamish about having kids together. They might even plot to have a kid and try to convince her BF or husband that it's his. Great! Now the rest of us can pay for the consequences of them bringing a retarded and/or emotionally disturbed child into the world. Problem solved.

That's why the taboo exists in the first place! To stop women and the 95% of stupid men from doing something that badly burdens the rest of us.

Now stop posting thoughtless rubbish lest I call you an Obama Islamophile and a media-programmed liberal fvcktard.
 

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Rooster, rooster, guinea, guinea...cousin's pussi's good as any
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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