"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Sex but no serious touching?

guitaronfire411

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So my girl and I have been together for over 3 years. We have had our rough patches but the last 2-3 weeks she was getting very angry and we broke up twice. I was being kind of harsh and she is quite sensitive so she quickly dropped the ball. She wanted to go back to being in a regular relationship but I insisted that if we were to forgive each other and be sexual, we would stay engaged and that was that. Otherwise, I told her, I saw there being no point in being friends.

Anyways, the silence between us only lasted 2 days before I took my nice 46" TV back and she wanted to reconcile after her work that day. The previous fight only lasted a single day but she removed me from Facebook.

The second time and most recent time, I went over there just to get my stuff but she very clearly still loved me because she was quite angry. We talked for about 20 minutes, she more crying than angry, and we sat down and chilled. No make-up sex but I got lots of kino and kissing so it was good gradual escalation.

Last night I was able to touch her body all over. I went for the breasts and was denied since she wasn't feeling too good. (She has highly sensitive breasts.) Anyways, after a while of watching TV and getting amazing kino, she walked into the other room and we had sex for the first time in a week or so, after all of the fighting, etc. She asked me if I'd 'gone' and then if I felt better and I said that it felt good.

Fast track to this morning. More full-body kino but yet still nothing when I attempted to touch her breasts.

Should I keep attempting breast kino? A few days ago she let me touch breasts+***** while watching TV so I'm thinking its her body that is making her uncomfortable instead of me.

Your thoughts?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Fatal Jay

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This is the most backwards thread I ever seen
 

TheWolfMan

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I don't get what all the fuss about the boobs is about? Like she let you F@ck her right?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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omega05

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what is wrong with you? smh lol. you smashed but are making a thread asking why she wont let you touch her breasts?
 

Starkwell

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Here he gets laid and is worried about touching her breasts. Think of it as this way, you want to keep going through this each time you try to have sex with her and put up with her crappy behavior? It's not going to get any better with her and you will be miserable the longer you stay on.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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