"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Setting down the rules

Crissco

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What are some rules you guys abide by when it comes to your girl? Rules that you lay down that you dont want her to break.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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The only rule i lay down is that she will not disrespect me.

Any other rules are adjusted based on the context of the relationship.
 

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soon as she brings up wanting to be exclusive:cool:
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Rules are best laid out without words.

You train her by punishing bad behaviour.
 

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Ease said:
Rules are best laid out without words.

You train her by punishing bad behaviour.
Explain?

I wrote out a list of rules that im going to stick by, basically personal standards for myself. And also a list of personal boundaries im going to lay out to the girl that she cant cross. Also the fact shes gotta know I can walk away at anytime no problem.
 

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Ease said:
Rules are best laid out without words.

You train her by punishing bad behaviour.
Well its best to iron out potential bad behaviours before they happen and then if they do happen (small bad behaviours, big ones you leave her) you punish bad behaviour by withdrawing your attention from her.

You can always during conversations indirectly reply that there are certain behaviours in women now a days you find repulsive and whom you don't respect and then gauge her reaction to it. If she likes you then she will most likely agree with your assessment and deep down in her mind she will be thinking "ohh I must change my behaviour or I might lose this guy" and a change of a behaviour will follow. If she doesn't like your views she will give you a scorn face and become argumantative in which case you realise you got a woman who doesn't have that much of high interest in you and will never change.

Also its best to start training or a better word "holding the frame" if you see a long term potential with this one after you f@ckeed her at least 3 times. Until then just have fun and don't worry about it too much because it will just be a hassle.
 

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DJDamage said:
Well its best to iron out potential bad behaviours before they happen and then if they do happen (small bad behaviours, big ones you leave her) you punish bad behaviour by withdrawing your attention from her.

You can always during conversations indirectly reply that there are certain behaviours in women now a days you find repulsive and whom you don't respect and then gauge her reaction to it. If she likes you then she will most likely agree with your assessment and deep down in her mind she will be thinking "ohh I must change my behaviour or I might lose this guy" and a change of a behaviour will follow. If she doesn't like your views she will give you a scorn face and become argumantative in which case you realise you got a woman who doesn't have that much of high interest in you and will never change.

Also its best to start training or a better word "holding the frame" if you see a long term potential with this one after you f@ckeed her at least 3 times. Until then just have fun and don't worry about it too much because it will just be a hassle.
Exactly what ive been doing. One thing that gets me is though. If I put a set standard on rules and if the women doesn't meet my criteria to a certian extent ill move on, but whos to say that women isnt cool, or pretty awesome on the inside. Also have can u get to know a women in a month, 2 months anyway, it usually takes 6 months to a year. So setting down set rules in my opinion is'nt the way to go. Your better off being a bit more flexible, especially in the beginning.
 
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