"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Simply. Would you go out with a woman that is seperated, but not divorced?. There is a woman that I have met at the gym and we have really hit it off. She has been seperated for a couple of years, but her x wont agree to file. She hasnt seen or heard from this guy since then.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Sure. I did once. The sky didn't fall. Worry about state laws concerning divorce later.
 

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Be very very careful. women who take forever to divorce is a red flag for me. Why doesn't SHE file? If you go out with her be on alert. If the X becomes a regular topic of conversation, eject.
 
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I'd hit it, and have done it before. I bet she is easy you can hit it on the first date.

Why are they separated? Let me guess, he cheated on her. HAHA that's what they all say.
 
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Also, when I was 20 I dated a 27 year old seperated woman. She was still mooching off her husband, living in his house! I was a HUGE AFC at this point in my life.

The divorce was supposedly almost final. She even brought me into their house and introduced me to her husband! He was an Ex-Marine, could have broke me in half. But he seemed cool with it. Then, we went and banged upstairs while he was sitting downstairs watching TV.

I was too young to realize what I was doing was insane and stupid. I don't even think I realized they were technically still married and "seperated" doesn't mean anything.

I still can't believe I did that. I can't believe SHE did that to her poor ex husband. What a b!tch, and I played along.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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My Name is Nobody said:
I was too young to realize what I was doing was insane and stupid. I don't even think I realized they were technically still married and "seperated" doesn't mean anything.
Being married and NOT being separated doesn't mean anything.
 
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STR8UP said:
Being married and NOT being separated doesn't mean anything.

Her husband must have been a bigger AFC than I was, letting his wife bring a boyfriend in his house, and he let us have sex a few feet away. I'm sure he could hear it.

Unbelievable.
 

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My now ex-wife and I were separated but still living in the same house for a while. It didn't bother me that she was seeing other men, she had more problems with me seeing other women. But we still managed to do a double date one time - hers was James Iha from The Smashing Pumpkins.
 

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leeman67 said:
Simply. Would you go out with a woman that is seperated, but not divorced?. There is a woman that I have met at the gym and we have really hit it off. She has been seperated for a couple of years, but her x wont agree to file. She hasnt seen or heard from this guy since then.
I have gone out with women that are separated...and it is a LOT of drama.
Dangerous drama.

By the way...she is LYING to you about the reason the divorce has not been finalized.
 

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My Name is Nobody said:
Her husband must have been a bigger AFC than I was, letting his wife bring a boyfriend in his house, and he let us have sex a few feet away. I'm sure he could hear it.

Unbelievable.
Maybe he didn't care. For all you knew...in his eyes she was a ho and he was the one munching out of her place.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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My Name is Nobody said:
Her husband must have been a bigger AFC than I was, letting his wife bring a boyfriend in his house, and he let us have sex a few feet away. I'm sure he could hear it.

Unbelievable.
I cant believe someone would have that little respect for themselves
 
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Latinoman said:
Maybe he didn't care. For all you knew...in his eyes she was a ho and he was the one munching out of her place.

That's true, he must not have cared because I looked him in the eyes and he smiled when she introduced me.

But after that night, she told me he had a talk with her. She told me he said it was "inconsiderate" of her to do what she did, and asked her not to do it again.
 

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My Name is Nobody said:
That's true, he must not have cared because I looked him in the eyes and he smiled when she introduced me.

But after that night, she told me he had a talk with her. She told me he said it was "inconsiderate" of her to do what she did, and asked her not to do it again.
I am sure that's something a roomate would say something like that too. Trust me...if he would have cared...he would have probably killed you both and come with some "insanity" crap.
 
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Latinoman said:
I am sure that's something a roomate would say something like that too. Trust me...if he would have cared...he would have probably killed you both and come with some "insanity" crap.

The story she gave me was that he cheated on her while overseas in the military. Then he told her about the affair, because he couldn't live with the guilt.

Then she divorced him but she couldn't survive on her own so he let her stay at his house.

Last time I checked she is remarried living with some new husband, I don't know what happened to the old husband.
 

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My Name is Nobody said:
The story she gave me was that he cheated on her while overseas in the military. Then he told her about the affair, because he couldn't live with the guilt.

Then she divorced him but she couldn't survive on her own so he let her stay at his house.

Last time I checked she is remarried living with some new husband, I don't know what happened to the old husband.
She is lying. He probably dumped her (not the other way around)...and was allowing her to stay there until she found a place. I am sure he had NO desire to be with her and he allowed to stay there while getting some sex from time to time.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Latinoman said:
She is lying. He probably dumped her (not the other way around)...and was allowing her to stay there until she found a place. I am sure he had NO desire to be with her and he allowed to stay there while getting some sex from time to time.
WAS lying buddy...was.. this sh!t was like 10 years ago!
 

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She has told me no more then that He was lying to her for years and he left her. She lives in the home with her two children. Here is the additonal drama.


She currently is seeing a guy, but wants out of the relationship. too possesive. Wants to know where she is 24/7. She has thrown several hints that she is interested .

To this point, I have just kepted it at a friendship level. We never run out of things to talk about. I know. Im a trouble magnet... LOL
 

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leeman67 said:
Simply. Would you go out with a woman that is seperated, but not divorced?. There is a woman that I have met at the gym and we have really hit it off. She has been seperated for a couple of years, but her x wont agree to file. She hasnt seen or heard from this guy since then.
In jurisdictions which have "no fault" divorce laws, either party is free to file by citing "irreconcilable differences" without reference or permission from the other party.

She is telling you some serious BS for some reason.
 

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leeman67 said:
She has told me no more then that He was lying to her for years and he left her. She lives in the home with her two children. Here is the additonal drama.


She currently is seeing a guy, but wants out of the relationship. too possesive. Wants to know where she is 24/7. She has thrown several hints that she is interested .

To this point, I have just kepted it at a friendship level. We never run out of things to talk about. I know. Im a trouble magnet... LOL
She is an habitual "branch swinger" .
 

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If you don't make her separation an issue for you, it's fine. I've found that separated/divorced women are generally more controlling and in control of someone like me, so watch out for signs of that.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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