"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Semi-tested Kiss-close routine

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Ok guys, this "routine" is not fully field tested. I've done it 3 times and it worked perfectly 2 times. The 3rd time however i got the no-go. She had a bf so that might have caused it but I'm not sure. I still think it's interesting enough to share with everyone.

While doing this routine, it is essential that you already have initiated kino and keep a light and flirtatious tone. If not it will come of as incongruent.

When I'm talking to a girl and build comfort I ask her what traits her ideal boyfriend/lover should have in general. After whatever she tells me, I tell her my own criterias. Then i put a strong emphasis and importance on being honest and faithful. I ask her if she considers herself to be either. They ALWAYS say they are both, regardless of how true it is.. Then I follow up with asking where she draws the line as far as cheating goes. They usually say kissing. Then I ask what kind of kiss? I move in slowly and give her a small peck on the lips, like it's no big deal. "Would you consider this cheating?" When she says no,(most do) then you say "how about this?" and give her a kiss that lasts a bit longer. At this point you will notice whether she is receptive or not, and if she is you turn it into a fullblown makeout-session. If she cuts you off in any way or seem uncomfortable you just withdraw and acknowledge her answer and get on with the chat as if nothing happened.

I would like feedback from people who are willing to field-test this. I will keep doing it myself and see if i can improve it in any way. Feel free to make suggestions on how to improve this routine.

Any opinions on this technique would be highly appreciated!

Thx

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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Haha, I would test this out on my ex, but we broke up for a reason :rolleyes:. Too bad I was a uber-wimp, I took her kissing another guy to heart, and I had every reason to hate her, not talk to her.

It's been over a year and a half since I bothered with her and I went on a date with her last friday. fukkk me hard.

We will see how this saturday goes though, working on perfecting CF&F :D

It sounds like good stuff though.
 

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Anyone tested this out yet? I've done it 5 more times now, and had 3 successes and 2 no-go's. Would be cool if any of you guys would try it and let me know how you do :)

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"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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You don't need any routines to kiss a woman...

Whenever you feel you want to kiss her... and you have some kino, you are in her personal space and have some rapport going... just lean in and kiss her... If she refuses you'd still be better of than excusing and postponing it...

The second time it will be a lot easier...

Why complicate things when nature tells us a different story?
 
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