"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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self proclaimed Non-Juan met a chick last night what do i do now?

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ok so I met this backpacker chick last night (friday night oz time) and got her number. we were talking about things to do in my town and clubs to go to. should i call her tonight and suggest i show her around some of the clubs or touristy spots? what do you guys think?
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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theCouch said:
ok so I met this backpacker chick last night (friday night oz time) and got her number. we were talking about things to do in my town and clubs to go to. should i call her tonight and suggest i show her around some of the clubs or touristy spots? what do you guys think?
Go drinking then to your place.... then fvck her.
 

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You're asking THAT?

I admit, I'm no DJ myself. But the answer to your question is blatantly obvious. Lets review:
1) You met a backpacker chick.
2) Spoke to her about clubs and things to do in town.
3) She gave you her number.

Oh... yeah, I guess you probably SHOULDN'T call her. theCouch, it's the weekend, she's a tourist, you have her phone number, she wants to see some stuff around town. Give her a ring! You don't need to worry about wait 3 days bull**** or any other nonsense. Just give her a ring, head out and show her the spots. You're in a position to lead, too; being the local, you're in charge, you're the guide. Awesome. So call.

...just a suggestion, however it may be unfeasible: think you have time to read the DJ Bible before tonight? It'd be worth it.
 

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Come on your a NON-JUAN!!!

What do you think your doing? You make the plan to go to the touristy spots with her, than you find every possible excuse to make your plan fail!!!

Who do you think you are? A DON JUAN?

sheesh, kids think they're so stupid these days! You could easily make yourself look worse mister
 

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brucevangeorge said:
Go drinking then to your place.... then fvck her.
I agree with Bruce. The aim is TO SPEND AS LITTLE MONEY AS POSSIBLE!!! Let an AFC do the tourist thing with her. Call her in 3 days and this is how the conversation should go:

theCouch: Hey, what's up? how are you doing?
Backpacker Chick: Nothing much.
Engage in mindless conversation about her doings that day for about two minutes.
theCouch:When are you having dinner?
Backpacker Chick:about 9:00.
theCouch, well I'm having drinks at________Come and meet me at 10.

The Backpaper chick will either agree to meet you or say she'll say has other plans.

You don't want to do they all thing with her for the following reason: 1) Unneccessary Expenditure. While your out she'll want to eat or grab a some sort of knick knack. (Remember, she'll assume that this is a date and you'll be picking up the tab.) 2) The longer your out with her, the more likely you'll say or do something that will turn her off. Women are always looking for reason not to have sex with you. It's like Miranda Rights. Anything you say can be used against you.

You goal is to spend the lest amount of money and time. If she agrees to meet you for drinks proceed as normal. Express you interest in her sexually, use KINO, then try to get her back to your from a "Trent Reznor," session.

If you like effin' her, and you like her as a person and she's been your girlfriend for a about 4-6 months then take her to the club and touristy spots.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

Read more...

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man, you all give horrible non-juan advice

Where's your inner AFC?
 

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Maximus Rex, I like your plan, but in 3 days time

it's a Monday night, I gotta get up early to work the next day. No time to go drinking at 10pm! Got an alternative suggestion? Maybe earlier drinks around 7pm?
 

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of course man. show her around.
 

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It's A Guideline

theCouch said:
it's a Monday night, I gotta get up early to work the next day. No time to go drinking at 10pm! Got an alternative suggestion? Maybe earlier drinks around 7pm?

Dude, my suggestion like everything else on this site IS A F*CKING GUIDELINE!!!! Make adjustments as neccessary. If 7PM is a more optimal time, then 7PM it is. Be warned, though she might not have eaten yet. So have some food on deck at the house. Or have a nice inexpensive resturant that you can go to. ONLY DO THE RESTURANT IN ORDER TO "CLOSE THE DEAL!!!"

The important thing is find out when she's eating and meet her after she's filled her gut. If she's having breakfast at 10, you meet her at 11AM, if she's having lunch at one, you meet her at 2PM. Stay focused on the goal, which is to spend as little time and money on her as possible.
 
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