"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Self Hipnosis

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alright, self hipnosis, I bought some books on it, has anyone tried this stuff? What do you think about it?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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I have a similar thread running on this sort of stuff in anything else.

I've tried the sub. hypno tapes to no avail. Turns out research discovered that you can't hear them at any level.

However, subs on flashing/disguised images, repetition filtering etc dual aural messages DHEA, well think they are useful.

Apparently general hypno. works for a third of those who undertake it. however understand most therapies offer similar outcome statistic. And talking through issues with friend is frighteningly close to these figures too.

Another big factor is the hypno. therapist. The best have much higher success rates, the reasons for this are complex but include reputation, insight, advanced use of language, rapport building abilities and the ability to motivate.

I make up my own affirmation tapes, two messages, one for left and right played together. I also have a program on my PC that flashes up sub. messages.

I am very judgemental and my brain tends to filter out anything that it knows is bullsh1t, so I have to use subdifuge to shove in new beliefs etc.

I'm really interested in any independant research on this sort of sh1t, anybody point me to it?
 

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Don't really have the time to point you to any material. However, what I read in this particuar magazine (years ago, can't remember the name) is to record a bunch of affirmations, and mix it at low volume with instrumental music. I had the equipment to do it years ago and made myself a tape.
 

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Originally posted by Alpine
I am very judgemental and my brain tends to filter out anything that it knows is bullsh1t, so I have to use subdifuge to shove in new beliefs etc.
Don't worry Alpine, you aren't all that judgemental because everyone's subconcious will reject things that aren't held up by their internal beliefs. That is just how our minds work.

I'm reading an excellent book call "Psycho-cybernetics" and in there they talk about repetition being able to have the same effect as hypnosis. So just because you can't be hypnotized doesn't mean you can't change your deepest beliefs. Either way any kind of big change like that takes a while. According to the books it takes at least 21 days for new beliefs to really start to take hold. So you need to be persistent. I highly recommend this book.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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There are two book I'm aware of on the subject. One is Superlearning which I read many years ago. Don't quote me on this but I believe a lot of the research in that Lazanov has been discredited.

Also What to say when you talk to yourself, nice book, more than just how to tape affs too.

The dual channel recording stuff I think is called DHEA and is by one of the NLP gurus.

On some level I suppose it makes sense that it works. If you don't let your brain think anything else by bombarding it with this stuff, it's either going to work or send you crazy. (The Chinese knew what the were doing)
 
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