"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Self Depreciation - can it ever work?

MaudGrimes

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Ok, I catch my self doing this a lot. I tend to drop in a few jokes when I'm talking to people (not just girls) that are self depreciating - generally they're humorous and lighthearted though I do seem to do them more around hot women (classic indicator of self esteem issue?).

I know I need to tone this down, but do you think there's room for it at all when chatting to women?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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i'd say since it looks like you have made it a habit, you should
cut it out altoghter, just stop doing it.
 

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It depends how it is done. Occasionally is fine, but continuously, well who wants to date somebody who doesn't respect themselves?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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FairShake

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It's extremely charming when done about things you clearly are NOT lacking in.

I will put myself down for being stupid or scared/weak because I am, at first glace, smart and tall.

I don't, however, put myself down for being fat or socially awkward because I don't find either of them to be particularly funny and I doubt the other person would too.
 

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I tend to combine self deprecation with self-appreciating humor.

Example: "Sure I am too weak to lift that but I can sure build a machine to do it for me"
 

Chickfight

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Sure, it can be really funny. I usually do it about things that don't really matter, such as singing ability. The "it's not what you say, it's how you say it" rule applies here.

I also agree with Fairshake. The contrast is what makes it funny. Example:

Girl: Oh that John guy always gets into fights, he's so aggressive, aren't you scared to hang out with him?

Guy: What John? Nah, he's like my lil' bro. I'm more scared of you.
 

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A confident, high self-esteem guy can pull it off. But I would never recommend this to a newbie or someone coming up in the game.

It can be used as an advanced technique though if you know what you are doing.

So it's really up to you and where you're at.
 

Aaron B

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its okay if its *actually* funny

the problem is, most people aren't funny

they say something they think is funny, then they laugh at it, and the other person laughs to be polite

stop laughing at your own jokes and you will find out if they are actually funny to her or not
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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it works if it's done right. I do it a bunch but usually mixed in with ridiculous ****iness.

Also if someone keeps talking you up then it helps. I have this friend who always makes introductions for me and starts going on about how cool I am (very nice of her) but it makes it a little awkward sometimes. So I make it funnier by throwing in some self-deprecating remarks.
 

Michele l'Arcangelo

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When my voice cracks, I say in a flamboyant voice, "Oh damn! I hope I'm going through puberty again, so my tiny penis will grow!"

Gets laughs and makes them wonder how big you are, which makes them think about your junk in general.
 
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