"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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DavenJuan said:
diddo..

and unfortunately i have used you as a trollshield. I have started mulitple threads that are nothing more than me mindumping my thoughts on a particular event, conversation, interaction, etc. somewhere in the middle of me typing i decide to reserve my thoughts and delete my thread (most of the time)

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It's pretty bad when you have to have trollshields!

Especially from good posters like Latinoman, who obviously just doesn't get it. His last post says that I whine, but I challenge anyone to point out where I was "whining". Venting for a second. Maybe. Whining? Never.

And the stuff about a negative approach and being unhappy, and a false sense of rating, well, I'm done trying to explain myself. This site has become counterproductive for me, and it's too bad cause it kind of helped me through a bad time and now that I'm getting things on track it would be nice to be able to continue to sound off about whatever and bounce ideas back and forth, but I guess it isn't in the cards.

I'm not going to lie. I am here for myself and what I personally take away from this, and lately it's about 15-20% informative discussion and 80-85% useless off topic material.

That is why I will be respectfully bowing out now.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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you've left the site before but come back. Don't go!
 
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