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This I'm afraid is an uphill battle as there will always be the weak ones that cave in and continue being enslaved by the pvssy.

I just find it ironic that women have collaborated together to come up with the Feminism movement and #metoo. Yet guys as a whole, are too weak to come up with a movement(mgtow, incel, etc do not count) not to compliment or pay attention to any females on social media and adhere to certain rules(flaking, inconsistent responses, bad behavior, acceptance of overweight being normal, shyt tests, etc). Imagine if there was enough support and media coverage to get the word out to educate and inform the entire male population AND actually have all the males participate and adhere to it. That would be the biggest challenge.
Well, they (women) have willing accomplices (rhymes with "Juice") who control ALL the airwaves and are attempting to control all the net. There is a genocide going on, haven't you heard?
 

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creme de la creme chocolate coming out of fountains:D
Man, what a refreshing dating profile this would be to see this kind of pointblank honesty.

Imagine a woman reading this exact post. No guy is that transparent or honest. But he would seem so real....
Saturday (after a full day of work) I got flaked. Yesterday my backup flaked. Now granted, the first was a Millennial, the second a Gen-Zer. Back to the drawing board. It's not ME. I'm a fine dude, trust me. Back to workin out today, reading books, eating well, makin serious chunks of change, being over 6' (at 6'2"), dark blond hair (cause of grey-reducing)/stache, 181 lb very low body fat (V-shaped) good cardio. I've got the total package but car/house. I drive my vehicles into the ground and they're still goin after 20 years - two sh!tty trucks because I can't find parts for em - aesthetic not functional. A 3 bed 2 bath house, no garage (thus no new vehicle again cause it'd just get hailed on) - I love it, but I know most women (today) would prefer a bells n' whistles ornate creme de la creme chocolate or Starbucks coming out of water fountains 5 acre estate or more. Uh, as a far as the world's concerned I'm rich as Fvck. I've got Everything I need, thus my only interest lay in buying/reading books. The more sh!t you have, the more you are weighted DOWN, the more sh!t you either neglect or keep up (which equals TIME outta your day and Time is more valuable than anything). It'd be nice to have a boat which I could easily have or whatever big piece to give you an excuse to go party on a lake or something, but really only suckers buy such things.

IRL is the way to go of course, but maybe just maybe there's an OLDie who can be normal and see through all the bunk. So much rat-trash-wratchet hoes.
 

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Saturday (after a full day of work) I got flaked. Yesterday my backup flaked. Now granted, the first was a Millennial, the second a Gen-Zer. Back to the drawing board. It's not ME. I'm a fine dude, trust me. Back to workin out today, reading books, eating well, makin serious chunks of change, being over 6' (at 6'2"), dark blond hair (cause of grey-reducing)/stache, 181 lb very low body fat (V-shaped) good cardio. I've got the total package but car/house. I drive my vehicles into the ground and they're still goin after 20 years - two sh!tty trucks because I can't find parts for em - aesthetic not functional. A 3 bed 2 bath house, no garage (thus no new vehicle again cause it'd just get hailed on) - I love it, but I know most women (today) would prefer a bells n' whistles ornate creme de la creme chocolate or Starbucks coming out of water fountains 5 acre estate or more. Uh, as a far as the world's concerned I'm rich as Fvck. I've got Everything I need, thus my only interest lay in buying/reading books. The more sh!t you have, the more you are weighted DOWN, the more sh!t you either neglect or keep up (which equals TIME outta your day and Time is more valuable than anything). It'd be nice to have a boat which I could easily have or whatever big piece to give you an excuse to go party on a lake or something, but really only suckers buy such things.

IRL is the way to go of course, but maybe just maybe there's an OLDie who can be normal and see through all the bunk. So much rat-trash-wratchet hoes.
6'2" is a great height. You're above the 6'0" minimum height needed to use swipe apps. 181 pounds with low body fat is good. You're not going to be a super muscular guy with 6'2" and 181 lbs, but that's ok. Being fit should be enough.

Not sure how old you are, but a Gen Z'er might be a big age difference. The bigger the age difference, the more superior you have to be. OLD is an exercise in dating down anyway. Millennials and Gen Z are very entitled generations, especially Millennials. Gen Z is still fairly new to the adult dating marketplace.

Women are going to look down on the car/house. The house seems ok, but no garage. Chicks are finnicky. A lot of chicks will give a guy crap about an old car. I once had a woman tell me I was unworthy of her barbecue my car was 10+ years old. Some of this depends on your geography. In the 15 years since I graduated college, I have lived in two Top 20 metropolitan areas that have major reputations for being pretentious.

Focus IRL. It's going to be tough with all the mask wearing. Then again, scheduling real life dates via app swipes is also going to be tough too. You're better IRL.
 

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Shouldn't take offense because your gay and proud. You are a very strange bird sometimes. There were several places you've mentioned you've like men in the past and transexual men and women. There is no shame in being what you truly are. I was not judging you! Live and have fun with all the men, trannies and women you like. No judgement here.
Obviously u r still angry, how long ago was that? A year?

I heard that stress causes illness such as migraine attacks.

The more stress the more powerful it becomes.

Anger, hate and even obsessions over long periods of time causes stress on the mind 1st and later the body.

I'll provide you with some medication, the pill you need is call anger management.
 

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Obviously u r still angry, how long ago was that? A year?

I heard that stress causes illness such as migraine attacks.

The more stress the more powerful it becomes.

Anger, hate and even obsessions over long periods of time causes stress on the mind 1st and later the body.

I'll provide you with some medication, the pill you need is call anger management.
It's okay man. No need to feel guilty or upset about being gay. We don't hold it against you. Be gay. Be proud. Say it out loud. You guys do not need to stay in the closet.
 

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It's okay man. No need to feel guilty or upset about being gay. We don't hold it against you. Be gay. Be proud. Say it out loud. You guys do not need to stay in the closet.
You seem preoccupied with homosexuality, when none was even mentioned, even posting it several times, I however don't mind it, everyone finds me handsome.
 

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Yes, there are rarities where you get lucky and date someone at your level or higher, but not often.

I consider myself an 8 on my "good/best days" and my OLD pics portray me as an 8-8.5. It's easy for me to pull 6's and below, but I'm not willing to sleep with <=6's unless they, for example, have an amazing ass or something. This makes me sound like an ahole, but I'm actually not--I'm just picky at this point in my life (which everyone should be). 7's are fairly easy to match and converse with, but are more difficult to meet up with than <=6's. While the <=6's may come right over to my place (not always), the 7's usually want to meet out. >=8's are pretty much impossible. Once in a while I'll get lucky (yes, lucky is the right word) and will actually be able to pull an 8 or above, but it's veeerrry few and far between. I'm talking the girl who's literally JUST out of a relationship and needs some d!ck to "get back on her feet" and make her feel sexy again. That's the most common, but still rare. But most >=8's aren't on OLD to actually date. They're on it for attention and date through their social circle. Most >=8's will ghost you mid conversation or when you suggest meeting up. And by most I mean like 90%. 5% of the remaining 10% are girl willing to talk and sext, but not meetup. The last 5% are the times you get lucky.

I honestly believe a 10/10 guy (looks-wise) would have trouble pulling >7.5's on OLD these days. Back in 2012 is was amazing. These days... It's work. And depressing if you don't already have a plate or two.

TL;DR:

OLD is great is you're cool with banging chicks way below your league.
The reality is, the hottest girls DON'T have to use an app to get dates. They get so much attention from school, work and from their social media, having to add yet another filter through a dating app is just a PITA for these girls.

Why would a girl even risk an encounter with a random stranger, with a high probability of being catfished, along with all of the dangers that entails (real or imagined) when she has abundant options IRL from guys she can vet through multiple channels?
 

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You seem preoccupied with homosexuality, when none was even mentioned, even posting it several times, I however don't mind it, everyone finds me handsome.
Happy to hear you are embracing your desires with them. Nothing to be ashamed of. I am proud to hear your accept it. However, you really should advise guys dating women since you prefer guys and transexuals.
 

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Happy to hear you are embracing your desires with them. Nothing to be ashamed of. I am proud to hear your accept it. However, you really should advise guys dating women since you prefer guys and transexuals.
Well I'm not the one who keeps on mentioning abt homosexuality.

But I do understand where u r coming from, it is a well known fact that when a man keeps talking abt homosexuality, favourably or not, he has some tendencies in that direction.
 

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Well I'm not the one who keeps on mentioning abt homosexuality.

But I do understand where u r coming from, it is a well known fact that when a man keeps talking abt homosexuality, favourably or not, he has some tendencies in that direction.
just curious why you keep on giving advice when you jumped ship to the other team. That is all.
 

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This I'm afraid is an uphill battle as there will always be the weak ones that cave in and continue being enslaved by the pvssy.

I just find it ironic that women have collaborated together to come up with the Feminism movement and #metoo. Yet guys as a whole, are too weak to come up with a movement(mgtow, incel, etc do not count) not to compliment or pay attention to any females on social media and adhere to certain rules(flaking, inconsistent responses, bad behavior, acceptance of overweight being normal, shyt tests, etc). Imagine if there was enough support and media coverage to get the word out to educate and inform the entire male population AND actually have all the males participate and adhere to it. That would be the biggest challenge.
can you lead it? someone that thinks it should be done needs to do it. now is the time with the virus thing.. lots of ears open.
 

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can you lead it? someone that thinks it should be done needs to do it. now is the time with the virus thing.. lots of ears open.
I really thought about it at one point but that would mean I would have to give up my privacy and anonymity for it to be effective. I hope someone in a better position that doesn't mind being center and forefront can lead it.

Other idea is to gather everyone on these types of forums to lead a grassroot movement. We could all(mostly) agree to top key messages we want for clueless guys in a short, concise, digestable fashion on a dedicated website. We could all pitch in to get hashtag stickers made and bombard the hell out of the internet and also stick these stickers in every city, everywhere we go to get the message out. I'm thinking critical mass would be one of the ways to achieve it. I'll write a separate thread for some suggestions...
 

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Yes, there are rarities where you get lucky and date someone at your level or higher, but not often.

I consider myself an 8 on my "good/best days" and my OLD pics portray me as an 8-8.5. It's easy for me to pull 6's and below, but I'm not willing to sleep with <=6's unless they, for example, have an amazing ass or something. This makes me sound like an ahole, but I'm actually not--I'm just picky at this point in my life (which everyone should be). 7's are fairly easy to match and converse with, but are more difficult to meet up with than <=6's. While the <=6's may come right over to my place (not always), the 7's usually want to meet out. >=8's are pretty much impossible. Once in a while I'll get lucky (yes, lucky is the right word) and will actually be able to pull an 8 or above, but it's veeerrry few and far between. I'm talking the girl who's literally JUST out of a relationship and needs some d!ck to "get back on her feet" and make her feel sexy again. That's the most common, but still rare. But most >=8's aren't on OLD to actually date. They're on it for attention and date through their social circle. Most >=8's will ghost you mid conversation or when you suggest meeting up. And by most I mean like 90%. 5% of the remaining 10% are girl willing to talk and sext, but not meetup. The last 5% are the times you get lucky.

I honestly believe a 10/10 guy (looks-wise) would have trouble pulling >7.5's on OLD these days. Back in 2012 is was amazing. These days... It's work. And depressing if you don't already have a plate or two.

TL;DR:

OLD is great is you're cool with banging chicks way below your league.
This.
And quit being picky. There's more uglies than goodlookings in OLD and in the world.

Just get laid and get laid often.
 

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I was opened by a fatty other day, just standard introductions so "How are you doing?" to which I answer: "Just bidding my time, waiting for a sign, to tell me that I am something special..." to which She says, "I hope you get it." She got a cute face, just probably 180 lbs 5'4 or somethin. How would you answer this? Aggressively, try to meet? or still keep it light?
 

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I was opened by a fatty other day, just standard introductions so "How are you doing?" to which I answer: "Just bidding my time, waiting for a sign, to tell me that I am something special..." to which She says, "I hope you get it." She got a cute face, just probably 180 lbs 5'4 or somethin. How would you answer this? Aggressively, try to meet? or still keep it light?
Depends. Chubby or fat?
 

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Depends. Chubby or fat?
Stout or runtish. Her t!tties are probably rubbery-jutting or punchy though she's 32. I like her face and smile. I just responded to her. She seems pursuant, but this will help me tell if she's just attention-whoring.. because she probably thinks I'm out of her league, but if she can get me to commit or act interested, she's won her case for herself. The more you read the more you have a way with words, but of course, you never know the personality on the other side having never Met the person. It's kinda a shot in the dark. You have no idea her intelligence level or how sensitive she is to wording or structure. So far, she seems decently intelligent.
 

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I was opened by a fatty other day, just standard introductions so "How are you doing?" to which I answer: "Just bidding my time, waiting for a sign, to tell me that I am something special..." to which She says, "I hope you get it." She got a cute face, just probably 180 lbs 5'4 or somethin. How would you answer this? Aggressively, try to meet? or still keep it light?
meet and see if there's any sparks, see how she moves, if she's flexible/graceful enough you might be able to fvck 40 pounds off her over the summer-depending on chemistry and if you rev up her romance hamster into wanting to please/serve you.
Depends on if its still loose fat or solid fat.

If it feels good, proceed forward.
 

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Stout or runtish. Her t!tties are probably rubbery-jutting or punchy though she's 32. I like her face and smile. I just responded to her. She seems pursuant, but this will help me tell if she's just attention-whoring.. because she probably thinks I'm out of her league, but if she can get me to commit or act interested, she's won her case for herself. The more you read the more you have a way with words, but of course, you never know the personality on the other side having never Met the person. It's kinda a shot in the dark. You have no idea her intelligence level or how sensitive she is to wording or structure. So far, she seems decently intelligent.
If you have interest, take a shot. If, after meeting in person, you do not like, then pass.
 

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If you have interest, take a shot. If, after meeting in person, you do not like, then pass.
pro ugly-fatty movement!!

How are you Rick, come back to visit and post more.
 
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