"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Seducing a female friend?

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So there is this friend I have...when we first met I know she was interested, but nothing happened and we just became friends. I used to flirt with her a lot, but then I kinda stopped. Anyway, I've become pretty flirtatious again, and she usually responds well, but she often tells me that my "joking" annoys her....but at the same time it makes her happier after awhile when she's sad (she seems to be very moody). Well anyway, I'm not so sure I'd want a relationship with her, but I seem to be quite infatuated lol. How should I go about doing this? Should I avoid having more "serious" conversations with her? Because we seem to be further apart after those...
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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In my experience once you are a "friend" in her mind it is very difficult to change that. It's a real b!tch, eh? You got to set the attraction from the get go, or else it generally won't happen.
 

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Well, what happens when you start out as more than a friend, then just fall into the just friends sort of thing? Is that different?
 

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when we first met I know she was interested, but nothing happened and we just became friends.


Well you fvcked that up, didn't you? With the next girl, don't do that. Make a move, and either get laid or get rejected, and move on from there. Then you won't ever be in this situation again.
 

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Well, there isn't really a situation....well maybe there is lol. I'm not in love with her or anything, the girl just turns me on. I don't want a relationship with her...
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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ARrocket said:
So there is this friend I have...when we first met I know she was interested, but nothing happened and we just became friends. I used to flirt with her a lot, but then I kinda stopped. Anyway, I've become pretty flirtatious again, and she usually responds well, but she often tells me that my "joking" annoys her....but at the same time it makes her happier after awhile when she's sad (she seems to be very moody). Well anyway, I'm not so sure I'd want a relationship with her, but I seem to be quite infatuated lol. How should I go about doing this? Should I avoid having more "serious" conversations with her? Because we seem to be further apart after those...
You are in the "friendzone"....the closest you will get to sex with her is mastrubating by yourself, holding a picture of her, and calling her name as you climax in sexual frustration.
 

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lol what they are basicly saying man is just the work you would have to put in for this wouln't be worth it. Get that there is only one girl for me thing out your head.

But if none of that steers you away keep trying then. Every Don juan know that there comes a time when you got to break a rule or two but the odds are set against. The only way I ever ever seen this work out is when the girl secretly had a crush on the guy the whole time, which from what you told don't sounds like it.
 

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lol thanks Tookie but you guys aren't understanding...

I am not thinking she's the girl for me, I am NOT interested in any kind of relationship or anything with her...I date other girls, but (not to sound too crude) I would love to bang her :)
 
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