"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Second date - nothing

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Don Juan
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Hi guys,

I had a second date with this girl i'm looking for. Nothing happened but we had a good time. She was always saying, ''this way, you won't go further'', she thinks im the kind of guy that doesnt care with the opinion of the others. ''you think u are the only one that knows the truth and blah, blah, nlah''

So, nothing happened in this second date. Am I entering in the friend zone? I made it clear that i wouldn't enter the friend zone.

Any move to avoid friend zone without being desesperate?
 

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For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

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Don Juan
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OK,

I'm looking for this girl, she's difficult, not an easy one. So I date one time with her, things didn't run very well, we went to the theater. Since, we've been talking in MSN for a long time, and we made a second date, we walked for while, we went to the coffe. But we are always teasing each other, and when i approach her, she always says ''go away'' or something like that. It's not a big deal, she's testing me.

We had this second date and nothing happened. Do you think am i in the friend zone, i think i must go for a kiss next time...
 

Hitman10000

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Forget the next time.

Step 1. Grab your balls to see if you have them.
Step 2. Don't contact her (email/phone/etc)
Step 3. Let her do the talking and walking.
 

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Don Juan
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BTW. I did all that.

Since then, she stopped to contact me. Today, she talked with me in MSN saying like ''everything is fine? i've got to go, good holidays for you''.

I don't think she was really interested in me.

Move on?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

Read more...

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