I never even heard of this until a few nights ago. Saw something on Tom cruise and Katie holmes Anyways was curious what the big deal was so i googled it. I cant find an answer to what the religion is really about. It seems even scientologists dont know what scientology is. Even their description is all mumo jumbo. Can anyone give me a brief explanation of this? I know its a religion or cult or something o the sort but thats about all i know.
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Master Don Juan
There's a reason why you can't find out more about scientology. Cults use this tactic. They dont get specific as to suck you in. You are fed deception in small bites as to brainwash. If they were to tell you the bare truth about what they are, you'd never be interested.
Just like the MLM cults like quixtar. They'll NEVER be specific about the company until you are usually in one of their homes. They'll tell you about a "business opp" they have. But will refuse to get specific. Calling it by WHAT it is an "MLM" or even its own name "quixtar/amway" is taboo. They'll say its not a pyramid scheme yet be drawing one to illustrate it.
Just like the MLM cults like quixtar. They'll NEVER be specific about the company until you are usually in one of their homes. They'll tell you about a "business opp" they have. But will refuse to get specific. Calling it by WHAT it is an "MLM" or even its own name "quixtar/amway" is taboo. They'll say its not a pyramid scheme yet be drawing one to illustrate it.
I'm not into this cult, but it seems like everyone who joins the church of scienctology have golden lives. Its like they can't have enough good fortune; good health, wealth, constant good happenings, etc.
Amazes the crap out of me!
Amazes the crap out of me!
I'm interested to know what this is all about aswell. Tom Crusie gets a lot of stick for this & i'm wondering why.
I got more interested when i found out Beck (someone who i really admire & respect) is also a Scientologist. I don't mean that i want to be part of it or anything, just wondering what it is exactly.
& saying that it's a cult that brainwashes people in small bites, isn't that what this site does?
I got more interested when i found out Beck (someone who i really admire & respect) is also a Scientologist. I don't mean that i want to be part of it or anything, just wondering what it is exactly.
& saying that it's a cult that brainwashes people in small bites, isn't that what this site does?
spider_007
Master Don Juan
Isn't their leader that wierd guy with a ponny tail....?
Atn't they the once that lied about clonign a baby, year or so back.....?
Atn't they the once that lied about clonign a baby, year or so back.....?
Yotsuya-san
Senior Don Juan
That was L. Ron Hubbard. The same guy who wrote Battlefield Earth. And speaking of that: John Travolta is also a scientologist. What does that say?
Jvesti
Master Don Juan
They target celebs man, celebs know how to make a good life
Alpine
Master Don Juan
Yep,
It's a money making cult, but then again so are most religions. The thing is it does work for some people, that's evident. So who knows.
It's a money making cult, but then again so are most religions. The thing is it does work for some people, that's evident. So who knows.
al77
Master Don Juan
I don't know about all cults, but if you go to your local tiny library you can get a Scientology book where they explain what they do with tons of specifics. I actually did.
Interesting - I met a couple of quixtar guys who got very specifci of what they do fairly quickly: find people and sell them garbage no one need. They just dont emphasize how hard it is to find anyone interested in that junk - but they dont hide it: if you make it for a second meeting with them - they'll tell you everything.
Guys, has anyone seen, talked to an alive scientologist? What are your impressions about benefits of scientology?
I drove a couple of time by a scientology center and was tempted to stop, get in and figure them out...
George Gordon
Banned
Guys, do your research first. And then if you still like what you find and you really want to get rid of the little aliens inside your body, go ahead.
But check this out first:
http://www.xenu.net/archive/scientology_illustrated/
But check this out first:
http://www.xenu.net/archive/scientology_illustrated/
Anybody can come out with a cult following those days and create a church.
http://www.tvacres.com/fraternal_org_nomaam.htm
http://www.tvacres.com/fraternal_org_nomaam.htm
Anybody can come out with a cult following those days and create a church.
http://www.tvacres.com/fraternal_org_nomaam.htm
http://www.tvacres.com/fraternal_org_nomaam.htm
Anybody can come out with a cult following those days and create a church.
http://www.tvacres.com/fraternal_org_nomaam.htm
http://www.tvacres.com/fraternal_org_nomaam.htm
Jvesti
Master Don Juan
Well great if you found a book on scientology. I'm saying look at their website. There's a reason why they are so evasive about giving any more than vague answers.
As for quixtar, they'll lure you to meet with them under the guise of "biz opportunity". THEN they'll start to tell you about the opportunity, being very brief in the strategy of getting you to check out one of their meetings. They are vague no matter which way you cut it. No one can correctly explain how the system/payouts works because its made extremely complex. I remember listening to the guys in it that had to keep asking their uplines how things work because they could barely describe it.
They in no way divulge their whole system. In fact you can't get proper information on their system. Just a cheesy booklet and their catalogue. Any good businessperson knows you make business decisions off of formal business plans, financial projections 1,2,5 years out, success statistics, profit/loss analysis, past analysis and so on.
That's why an average joe or someone without much business knowledge can fall for it. Scietology plays on self worth and feeling part of something, some cults play off greed, love etc.
MetalFortress
Master Don Juan
Scientology is insane. It's proof that I could start my own religion tomorrow, based around something crazy, and get followers. Why don't I just start a religion and try to say that Honda is an ancient Maori word for "God", and thus Honda is to be worshipped?
Hell, I'd convert all the idiot Fast and the Furious wannabes...
Hell, I'd convert all the idiot Fast and the Furious wannabes...
Dominus
Master Don Juan
Scientology is nutty.
The Church of Scientology is scary. They've stolen stuff from the IRS. They sanction any attack (verbal or physical, even to the point of fatal) on "enemies of the church." If you criticize them loudly enough, they will investigate you, as they feel that anyone who attacks them is a criminal. If they can't find anything, its their official policy to make something up.
The Church of Scientology is scary. They've stolen stuff from the IRS. They sanction any attack (verbal or physical, even to the point of fatal) on "enemies of the church." If you criticize them loudly enough, they will investigate you, as they feel that anyone who attacks them is a criminal. If they can't find anything, its their official policy to make something up.
Alpine
Master Don Juan
You mean you don't have to wait 2000 years?
What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.
You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.
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