"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Wow what can i say just a great site.:up:

I'm a semi-Newbie

Question: Does anyone have any frame work or scenarios they use when they see a girl in a bus a taxi or where ever and want to meet her?
From you first saw her to getting her number is where we can start then move through each stages (i learn from these best and other may too, for me its better to ajust and apply to myself).
 
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"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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You really just need a default opener for each scenario you want to meet girls in - on the bus I'd open with 'do you know what time we get to (name of town)?' and then just ask her where she's travelling to, what she's up to today etc.

Anything situational and relevant to the scenario you're in will get you into a conversation. After that just be playful, get some rapport, and then number close or go for an instant date.

If you want specific openers for the main, everyday places where you'll meet girls (all field tested openers btw), just ask and I'll post them.
 

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lol heres one i saw my dad do the other day at subway to the worker.

Dad: *examines cookies* Were those made today?

Girl: Yes... I made them..

Dad: You did a terrible job.

Girl: *shocked*

Dad: HAHA im just kidding.. but I was just making sure cause they looked alittle old..

Girl: *laughs*

from there the girl tried to initiate convo but was too ugly to take it any farther but just throwing it out there. nothin special. but thats a good question . its good to see someone better than you in action.
 

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Guitar_Whizz said:
You really just need a default opener for each scenario you want to meet girls in - on the bus I'd open with 'do you know what time we get to (name of town)?' and then just ask her where she's travelling to, what she's up to today etc.

Anything situational and relevant to the scenario you're in will get you into a conversation. After that just be playful, get some rapport, and then number close or go for an instant date.

If you want specific openers for the main, everyday places where you'll meet girls (all field tested openers btw), just ask and I'll post them.

Thanks Guitar Whizz I would appreciate that.

I use this for example...


ME: Hi
HER: Hi
ME: What is your name?
HER: Say something other than her name (she usually never gives it to me due to the way I ask of course)
ME: (in a sadish teasing way) oooh, why did your mom had to go
and give you such a horrible name.
HER: (At this point she is usually laughing and gives up the name)
ME: Ah there we go now that wasn't so hard.
HER: Ask for my name (If she is doesn't no problem)
ME: Hey (say her name and after she answers) your probably not use to hitting on a hot guy like me but this is the part were you usually ask for my name (said with a warm voice and a slight smile).
HER: Ask for my name
ME: (said in a teasing way) Ooh, So you are hitting on me
HER: No I’m not really
ME: Don't sweat it you're doing fine, I'm "Chez" (or whatever your pet name is) but that's not my real name.
HER: What’s your real name?
ME: Its (for example and do not say the full name) "Rob", take a guess (I use a look with a little smirk smile that say guess), it starts with R and ends with T.
HER: Robert (They always guess it, due to the hints of course).
ME: Wow, you’re not just a pretty face but smart too (at this point I’m close to my stop).
HER: Smiling speechlessly
ME: (Stop the driver but before getting up) Hey "whatever her name is" it was nice talking to you (now get up to leave but before I leave) by the way what’s your number?
HER: (She'll usually give me the number 7 out of 10 times)
ME: I'll call you (now I get the hell out of there lol)

My transits are like 10 min for one and about 20 min for the other so I time my start.

(Oh and I always have the correct fare for a quick & slick exit)
 
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