"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
says she just got out of a long relationship, not ready for anything yet. now what?
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Iceberg
Master Don Juan
That sounds good. Maybe I'll hit ya up sometime to hang out when I get a day off. Yeah, I kind of just got out of a serious relationship so I'm not really interested in anything serioud but hanging out sounds cool.
Iceberg is right on the moneyIceberg said:
Translation: That sounds good. I'm telling you that I will call you sometime to give you hope that something will happen between us. Notice that I didn't mention any time, any day and any place. It's because it mostly not going to happen. I just thought that if I mention the serious relationship (excuse that I give to nice guys that I don't wanna date) you will get the point. I'm not interested in anything serious with you (no date for you), but if I'm bored and I need to waste time before my date with a guy that's going to give me the good stuff I will call you, and discuss (mostly complaining about my ex-boyfriend) about how it would have be good if he was just like you. (which is a lie too).Robert28 said:
Answer: DROP ASAP
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Awesome translation! Seriously this is one of the best translations of a woman giving you the "just got out of a relationship card" that I have ever seen. Congrats! Every newbie should read that and understand itbadboyjmm said:
Can you explain to me what you mean by "girl i been talking to for a little bit"?
I'm going to assume that you befriended her, talk to her often and have talked to her for some time before you even got the balls to ask her out (which I don't know if you have or not). Sounds to me that she saw your advances coming and decided to shut you down before you asked her out (correct me if wrong).
Try changing your mentality to a DJ mentality. Don't give women your precious time unless they deserve it.
If you "talk to them a little bit," trying to be their friend, trying to get to know them, trying to impress them before you get the balls to ask them out you will end up in situations like the friend zone which you seem to be in now.
You are killing the mystery with women before even going out with them.
From now on try doing this. Don't "talk to them a little bit" but when you find a nice girl you like just ask them out. Don't try to be their friend, don't try to get to know them, don't waste your time on them trying to get on their good side hoping she will start liking you (kinda what happened here it seems). Keep your interactions with women at a professional level until they agree to explore a possible relationship and this is done by going out.
Instead set the tone right from the start that you see yourself as a possible lover not a friend by asking them out early into your encounters with her. That way you won't be wasting your time and she giving you excuses after you spend time talking to her "a little bit" and killing your hopes.
UPDATE:
If I meet a girl I want to get with I don't like to spend more than 10 minutes of my time talking to her without asking her out. I want to reveal as little information about myself as possible. I want to remain mysterious, i want to remain an enigma, i don't want to kill my chances with her before even going out on a date. You need to make them "pay" to get to know you and they do that by investing their time with you on dates.
badboyjmm said:
oh i got the hint as soon as the last word rolled out of her mouth. i didn't say "ok, hope you call, i'll be looking for it!". just kinda said "mmmm ok well bye" and turned around and off i went. i just had never heard a girl use the version i got, it's was a more dressed up version of what the original poster asked about.
PapiChulo
Master Don Juan
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.