"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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saying i love you

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ive always heard that you should not say "i love you" everytime you talk to or hang up on your girlfriend because it could get worn out. if thats the case, how would you explain yourself when she says "i love you" and is waiting for a response?

thanks
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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the_azn_fu said:
ive always heard that you should not say "i love you" everytime you talk to or hang up on your girlfriend because it could get worn out. if thats the case, how would you explain yourself when she says "i love you" and is waiting for a response?

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"ditto" !

but I usually just say "me too"
 

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It is ok to say I love you..

Personally, I don't see anything wrong with saying "I love you". The problem many people have here is that they take everything read here too seriously. There is absolutely nothing wrong with telling your girl you love her after she says it to you. The reason why people are causioned on saying "I love you" is because some of the AFCs over-use the phrase hoping to get sex in return or hoping the girl won't leave him because "she knows I love her." If your girl says I love you, say I love you too. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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amoka said:
Personally, I don't see anything wrong with saying "I love you". The problem many people have here is that they take everything read here too seriously. There is absolutely nothing wrong with telling your girl you love her after she says it to you. The reason why people are causioned on saying "I love you" is because some of the AFCs over-use the phrase hoping to get sex in return or hoping the girl won't leave him because "she knows I love her." If your girl says I love you, say I love you too. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

The problem is when the girl says it, and waits for you to say it back, when you DON'T really love her.

It's painful to say I love you to a girl you don't really love. Ya dig?
 

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hearing a girl saying i love you rocks. theres 365 days in the year and i have heard her say it to me like 1 billion times and it never gets old. just say it like when your mom drops you off in front of your friends and she says i love you. act all manly and roll your eyes and say it. they know you'll mean it. play it tough though. sappy i love you's are lame.
 

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Spartibus said:
The problem is when the girl says it, and waits for you to say it back, when you DON'T really love her.

It's painful to say I love you to a girl you don't really love. Ya dig?
If you don't love her why are you in a relationship with her. If it is just a FB you created, just make it known to her that you're not ready to be in a relationship at a moment with her, but rather for the casual sex. Period.
 

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insanity said:
hearing a girl saying i love you rocks. theres 365 days in the year and i have heard her say it to me like 1 billion times and it never gets old. just say it like when your mom drops you off in front of your friends and she says i love you. act all manly and roll your eyes and say it. they know you'll mean it. play it tough though. sappy i love you's are lame.
But what of you don't mean it?

Don't EVER tell a girl you love her if you don't really love her.
 

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i mean it when i say it. but it doesn't come off as lame. i was dropping my woman off at college and when she said have a good day i love ya i just rolled my eyes and mumbled i mlnlove you t...oo. an older lady heard that and said that was so cute and it made her day.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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amoka said:
If you don't love her why are you in a relationship with her. If it is just a FB you created, just make it known to her that you're not ready to be in a relationship at a moment with her, but rather for the casual sex. Period.
Casual sex and "relationship" and "F" buddies are the same thing!! Don't try to dignify hors - it can't be done!!!
 

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Casual sex and "relationship" and "F" buddies are the same thing!! Don't try to dignify hors - it can't be done!!!
Thank you. Love is for p/ssies.
 

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It is fine to say it after she says it...

I refuse to tell a girl I love her first...
 
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Not too many girls love me - but this crazy one said she loved me and I just stood there and I knew I had to respond in the affirmative but I didn't love her so I stuttered and blushed and said, I, I, I, I, I, I, I gotta go!!

I was 16 y/o!
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Last Man Standing said:
Casual sex and "relationship" and "F" buddies are the same thing!! Don't try to dignify hors - it can't be done!!!
Read that and weep guys, for me personally saying I Love You to a girl just isnt going to ever happen, girls just want you to say it so they can stroke their egos, not hating on them or anything but nah I'll never ever say it.

They dont change with age or wisdom, you cant even talk to them about doing your car up without them getting bored, all they want is constant attention just like a 2 year old child, they get off on it.

If they do say I love you and want an answer back say the usual I know or me too, nothing more, let them squirm over those 3 words and that gives you the power in the relationship, and trust me the world revolves around power nothing else just power. (your gonna have to think outside the square to understand that)
 
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typical said:
Read that and weep guys,
I think I just called somebody's girlfriend a hor!! :rolleyes:

Don't be so sensitive - you are on a seduction site! Keep fooling yourself that you are someone special and that she is someone special - you are just the next pimp in line!!! The posts on here prove it everyday!!

Don't cry when "your" "girl" gives head to another dyck!!! Hors have no rules, kid!!!
 

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what is wrong with you guys, seriously u guys disgust me, its ppl like u that make our society lack love now days, thats y u lot cant ever fall in love with a girl and know how wonderfull it is.
REAL MEN CAN LOVE, ONLY P>SSYS HIDE THEIR EMOTIONS.
Weak fkers call your selves DJs, if you cant take the rise of falling in love and risk giving your heart, how could you call your selves men???
A real man can give and receive real love.
 

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Zerotwoonenine said:
what is wrong with you guys, seriously u guys disgust me, its ppl like u that make our society lack love now days, thats y u lot cant ever fall in love with a girl and know how wonderfull it is.
REAL MEN CAN LOVE, ONLY P>SSYS HIDE THEIR EMOTIONS.
Weak fkers call your selves DJs, if you cant take the rise of falling in love and risk giving your heart, how could you call your selves men???
A real man can give and receive real love.

Nice SIG.

I gave you a rep point alright... a negative one.
 

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Thugo said:
Nice SIG.

I gave you a rep point alright... a negative one.
no, the guy has a point. why would a man be afraid of his true feelings and hide them? u guys arent afraid to hide ur want for sex, why be afraid of love? good point, Zerotwoonenine
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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