"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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saying i love you

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ive always heard that you should not say "i love you" everytime you talk to or hang up on your girlfriend because it could get worn out. if thats the case, how would you explain yourself when she says "i love you" and is waiting for a response?

thanks
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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the_azn_fu said:
ive always heard that you should not say "i love you" everytime you talk to or hang up on your girlfriend because it could get worn out. if thats the case, how would you explain yourself when she says "i love you" and is waiting for a response?

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"ditto" !

but I usually just say "me too"
 

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It is ok to say I love you..

Personally, I don't see anything wrong with saying "I love you". The problem many people have here is that they take everything read here too seriously. There is absolutely nothing wrong with telling your girl you love her after she says it to you. The reason why people are causioned on saying "I love you" is because some of the AFCs over-use the phrase hoping to get sex in return or hoping the girl won't leave him because "she knows I love her." If your girl says I love you, say I love you too. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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amoka said:
Personally, I don't see anything wrong with saying "I love you". The problem many people have here is that they take everything read here too seriously. There is absolutely nothing wrong with telling your girl you love her after she says it to you. The reason why people are causioned on saying "I love you" is because some of the AFCs over-use the phrase hoping to get sex in return or hoping the girl won't leave him because "she knows I love her." If your girl says I love you, say I love you too. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

The problem is when the girl says it, and waits for you to say it back, when you DON'T really love her.

It's painful to say I love you to a girl you don't really love. Ya dig?
 

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hearing a girl saying i love you rocks. theres 365 days in the year and i have heard her say it to me like 1 billion times and it never gets old. just say it like when your mom drops you off in front of your friends and she says i love you. act all manly and roll your eyes and say it. they know you'll mean it. play it tough though. sappy i love you's are lame.
 

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Spartibus said:
The problem is when the girl says it, and waits for you to say it back, when you DON'T really love her.

It's painful to say I love you to a girl you don't really love. Ya dig?
If you don't love her why are you in a relationship with her. If it is just a FB you created, just make it known to her that you're not ready to be in a relationship at a moment with her, but rather for the casual sex. Period.
 

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insanity said:
hearing a girl saying i love you rocks. theres 365 days in the year and i have heard her say it to me like 1 billion times and it never gets old. just say it like when your mom drops you off in front of your friends and she says i love you. act all manly and roll your eyes and say it. they know you'll mean it. play it tough though. sappy i love you's are lame.
But what of you don't mean it?

Don't EVER tell a girl you love her if you don't really love her.
 

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i mean it when i say it. but it doesn't come off as lame. i was dropping my woman off at college and when she said have a good day i love ya i just rolled my eyes and mumbled i mlnlove you t...oo. an older lady heard that and said that was so cute and it made her day.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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amoka said:
If you don't love her why are you in a relationship with her. If it is just a FB you created, just make it known to her that you're not ready to be in a relationship at a moment with her, but rather for the casual sex. Period.
Casual sex and "relationship" and "F" buddies are the same thing!! Don't try to dignify hors - it can't be done!!!
 

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Last Man Standing said:
Casual sex and "relationship" and "F" buddies are the same thing!! Don't try to dignify hors - it can't be done!!!
Thank you. Love is for p/ssies.
 

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It is fine to say it after she says it...

I refuse to tell a girl I love her first...
 
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Not too many girls love me - but this crazy one said she loved me and I just stood there and I knew I had to respond in the affirmative but I didn't love her so I stuttered and blushed and said, I, I, I, I, I, I, I gotta go!!

I was 16 y/o!
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Last Man Standing said:
Casual sex and "relationship" and "F" buddies are the same thing!! Don't try to dignify hors - it can't be done!!!
Read that and weep guys, for me personally saying I Love You to a girl just isnt going to ever happen, girls just want you to say it so they can stroke their egos, not hating on them or anything but nah I'll never ever say it.

They dont change with age or wisdom, you cant even talk to them about doing your car up without them getting bored, all they want is constant attention just like a 2 year old child, they get off on it.

If they do say I love you and want an answer back say the usual I know or me too, nothing more, let them squirm over those 3 words and that gives you the power in the relationship, and trust me the world revolves around power nothing else just power. (your gonna have to think outside the square to understand that)
 
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typical said:
Read that and weep guys,
I think I just called somebody's girlfriend a hor!! :rolleyes:

Don't be so sensitive - you are on a seduction site! Keep fooling yourself that you are someone special and that she is someone special - you are just the next pimp in line!!! The posts on here prove it everyday!!

Don't cry when "your" "girl" gives head to another dyck!!! Hors have no rules, kid!!!
 

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what is wrong with you guys, seriously u guys disgust me, its ppl like u that make our society lack love now days, thats y u lot cant ever fall in love with a girl and know how wonderfull it is.
REAL MEN CAN LOVE, ONLY P>SSYS HIDE THEIR EMOTIONS.
Weak fkers call your selves DJs, if you cant take the rise of falling in love and risk giving your heart, how could you call your selves men???
A real man can give and receive real love.
 

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Zerotwoonenine said:
what is wrong with you guys, seriously u guys disgust me, its ppl like u that make our society lack love now days, thats y u lot cant ever fall in love with a girl and know how wonderfull it is.
REAL MEN CAN LOVE, ONLY P>SSYS HIDE THEIR EMOTIONS.
Weak fkers call your selves DJs, if you cant take the rise of falling in love and risk giving your heart, how could you call your selves men???
A real man can give and receive real love.

Nice SIG.

I gave you a rep point alright... a negative one.
 

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Nice SIG.

I gave you a rep point alright... a negative one.
no, the guy has a point. why would a man be afraid of his true feelings and hide them? u guys arent afraid to hide ur want for sex, why be afraid of love? good point, Zerotwoonenine
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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