"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
savin it for marriage
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Jukeboxhero
Senior Don Juan
However, this site is great for advice on improving yourself in general, as well as your social skills. So whatever you choose to do you can get a lot of useful information from this site.
B-Lemond
Master Don Juan
syncmaster
Master Don Juan
jsut not hardcore, i never been to church willingly sicne primarmy school
but still sort of believe in god and stuff, but yeah,
i rekcon theres nothign wrong with sex, abortion or divorce
though i just dont really like the idea of divorce
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Keeper
Master Don Juan
Go with what you believe in. If your church says sex before marriage is bad, then don't do it. :-/ Don't ask us about religion, as your pastor or priest or minister.
MetalFortress
Master Don Juan
Alphathree
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(Incidentally this is a good attitude to have even if you do want sex.)
I personally LOVE to make out with women. It sounds dorky, but I have made out with so many women without really wanting sex. Kissing is so intimate. Heh, I sound like a woman now...
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Rollo Tomassi
Master Don Juan
Jesus said "I tell you that if you look upon a woman with lust in your heart, you have committed adultery", this scripture alone is enough to damn every male on planet earth from puberty to old age. I commit this sin on a daily basis because it's hardwired into our bio-psychological chemestry. I don't think Jesus meant to illustrate how screwed men are in this life so much as that there's really nothing we can do to avoid sin on our own accord.
If you are in fact sincere in this conviction I'd have to stress that what is offered to the men on this site in the most positive refelctions of what a man should be is far more important to someone such as yourself than to guys how don't share your outlook on sex. I say this because the very requirements of saving yourself until marriage don't allow you the luxury of being wrong in your assessment of women that having multiple partners will teach you by experience. You have to know your worth by learning it from the experiences of others rather than doing for yourself. You have to adopt the idea of being the PRIZE and understanding what women truly want (not what they say they want) in a man without the benefit of learning this first hand. You also have the hinderance of achieving the goals and ambitions you have either by accepting the responsibilities of marriage and driving towards them or remaining celibate while you do so. Sex is a strong impulse for the gender with the most testosterone and it becomes far too easy to compromise your personal identity and life's ambitions to accomodate the ONLY way to have sex - in your case marriage being the only option. Likewise it's far too easy to settle for a woman without the maturity to handle the reponsibilities, liabilities and accountabilities of marriage in ordrer to plot the shortest distance between your desire and her intimacy - again, marriage.
It is far more important to put your own self-interest ahead of women and everything else if this is your conviction, because you stand to lose so much, without the benefit of experience. I know at some point of reading this you'll say to yourself, "I'll just trust in God to bring me the best wife." And while that's a noble, faithful consideration, I'm sure you wouldn't say "I'll just trust in God to keep the cars away from me while I go play on the freeway." There is still an aspect of making the best decision for your life.
Personally I think there is far too little positive masculinity emphasized in any denomination of the church today. Women have learned from countless generations that the next best means of controlling men besides sex is their own self-righteous religious virtues. Beware this dynamic, it's exactly why most churches are as feminized and retain such a high concentration of AFCs as they do. I have yet to encounter the church guy who isn't a complete AFC and supplicates to his wife because she's controlled the sex for the entirety of their marriage.
Better to live under the corner of a house than share it with a quarrelsome wife.
WORKEROUTER
Master Don Juan
MetalFortress
Master Don Juan
Well, I don't believe that my 1986 Ford Ranger is made by Ford. I believe that Chevrolet made it. The Bible expressly forbids fornication, and it uses the word "fornication" too. Fornication is defined as extramarital sex.
So pimp its scary
Master Don Juan
If you wish to repress your nature, then by all means save it for some catholic girl that you met in your church...
if you wish to follow nature, then your going to have to abandon your ideas of saving yourself for marriage.
Then again, I am a corruptor of catholicism, and have changed at least 3 girls from saving themselves for marriage.
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
allknowledgenoxp
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they're just "best practices" from back in the day that were made sinful as a means of social control...
supposedly we are supposed to be made in god's image... are you a giant d1ckhead? would you make people burn in hell for freakin having sex? come on, i promise you if there's a god he's not that big of a d1ck. I doubt he cares what you do as long as you're a nice guy...(but not an AFC nice guy
)you can be a christian and still think the bible is made up and stupid.
p.s.
Proverbs
23:13 Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die.
23:14 Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell.
real christians beat their children with rods. Disfigurement is ok! He'll thank you for it in heaven...
Iamnotacrook
Senior Don Juan
You are awesome.
Skydiver43127
Senior Don Juan
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.