Sh0t said:Logistics are hugely important, so much of pulling requires things aligning in your favor to allow game to work.
I think this is so so so so true. Logistics are very important.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Sh0t said:Logistics are hugely important, so much of pulling requires things aligning in your favor to allow game to work.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Even if the gay guy doesn't think you are, girls aren't so smart when it comes to that and who's to say the gay guy will help you when he figures it out (If he does at all.)Vice said:And this is exactly the reason why it's so easy to meet women in places like that; straight guys that aren't comfortable with themselves dismiss those venues without even trying them out.
Gay guys can tell if a dude is straight, and they generally don't bother you. If they do, you just tell them you're straight, and they'll end up introducing you to their hot girlfriends.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
I blame China with their policies on valuing Men more than Women.DonGorgon said:there are too many men on earth now.
Stalin killed 20 millions of russians mostly men because he was afraid they were plotting against him.DonGorgon said:there are too many men on earth now.
Again, I sense that you're coming from a severe lack of experience. You don't have a crystal ball, you can't predict social interactions before they happen. Especially in those kinds of venues, where the way people think is more open minded.Zodiac said:Even if the gay guy doesn't think you are, girls aren't so smart when it comes to that and who's to say the gay guy will help you when he figures it out (If he does at all.)
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
I see you do nothing but make baseless assumptions quite like you claim I am doing. I'm all set with getting to know a few gay guys just so I can pull their friends. I live near quite a few colleges so I have my own methods for game.Vice said:Again, I sense that you're coming from a severe lack of experience. You don't have a crystal ball, you can't predict social interactions before they happen. Especially in those kinds of venues, where the way people think is more open minded.
You're also not giving women enough credit for their natural ability to pick up unconscious body language and behavior cues. Trust me, they can tell if you're straight.
You're in Maine, too. I haven't checked your IP location, but chances are good that you're in Portland.
Even in a place like Maine where there's few hot girls, if you have game, you can EASILY pull. You've just got to go to the right venues. Don't dismiss things until you've tried them.
PrettyBoyAJ said:Horrible advice.
More girls nowadays aren't worried about the club/party scene like the guys are. If you want to find girls you need to cold approach during the day. You can't just rely on parties to find girls. If so then you are in big trouble.
It also depends on what region your in too. Places like Los Angeles and Atlanta are full of girls.
elvis_p said:I have to admit, guys who are approaching, even if they are doing a piss poor job of it, stand a notch above the dance floor vultures.
I didn't mention meeting gay guys to go for their female friends. You go for the WOMEN, dude.Zodiac said:I see you do nothing but make baseless assumptions quite like you claim I am doing. I'm all set with getting to know a few gay guys just so I can pull their friends. I live near quite a few colleges so I have my own methods for game.
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Yeah dude, I know what you mean by that. The stupid looking dudes are kind of invisible too, just something that you have to push aside to get to the girl you want to talk to.PrettyBoyAJ said:Also theres a lot of places where their are more males then females but how many of these males aren't just standing there looking stupid? You must make sure your game is tight and that is not you. If I was at a party with 100 guys and 20 girls I already know I will pull a girl for the night. I just believe I got it like that.
no theres not..DonGorgon said:there are too many men on earth now.
irocknike23 said:no theres not..
i keep preaching this over and over
officially with a head count of almost every single human being on this planet the ratio is
49% men to 51% women
the reason you see more men is because guys go out a lot more than girls do
just go to college. i been in college for 2 years now and almost every class i take there is way more females than males
however at the parties and events its the other way around
Vice said:Yeah dude, I know what you mean by that. The stupid looking dudes are kind of invisible too, just something that you have to push aside to get to the girl you want to talk to.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.