"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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earlier this week I met a PUA at a bar, and we started talking mystery and style. this guy is a genius. he told me he has done very well at gay bars. what are your thoughs on sarging gay bars?

the way i see it is, instant disqualifier. Guy in a gay bar = probably gay = instant challenge. Discuss.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Yeah, I wouldn't wanna be profiled in going into a gay bar. If you want try it and tell us the results.
 

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I've done it, check my journal. It's the only time I actualy kiss closed in it.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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You find 4 different kind of women at gay bars. Lesbians, Fag Hags, Straight Converters, Bi girls.
 

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Most women go to gay bars to avoid getting hit on. So you may find that they respond a tad negatively to your hetero a$$ being there.

BUT, it would make for an interesting first meeting. If you go with a gay friend, that gives you a good reason for being there. However, if she knows you're there with your straight guy friends, she'll know right away why it is you're there (which makes you look desperate).

I'd love to hear how you'd approach her in such a place.
 

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jamescr73 said:
earlier this week I met a PUA at a bar, and we started talking mystery and style. this guy is a genius. he told me he has done very well at gay bars. what are your thoughs on sarging gay bars?

the way i see it is, instant disqualifier. Guy in a gay bar = probably gay = instant challenge. Discuss.
earlier this week I met a Grey Alien at a bar and we started talking about Carl Sagan. this thing was a genius. he told me he has gone very far into outer space. what are your thoughts on the space/time continuum and it's relativity to Star Trek?

Do you know how ridiculous you sound? I met a PUA at a gay bar? I think you want to hit the rainbow village but don't want to come out.

Subterfuge is for suckers. Say what you mean and be done with it.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Just thought I'd add, I befriended some crazy stereotypical feminists at a lesbian bar one night, out for a birthday party for a friend of a friend. They were pretty amusing and fun to hang with. One was actually really hot.

Anyway, there's no point to that story other than it could be a fun time.
 

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I didnt know straight women go to gay bars. Even if it works I still would never do that.
 

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KarmaSutra said:
earlier this week I met a Grey Alien at a bar and we started talking about Carl Sagan. this thing was a genius. he told me he has gone very far into outer space. what are your thoughts on the space/time continuum and it's relativity to Star Trek?

Do you know how ridiculous you sound? I met a PUA at a gay bar? I think you want to hit the rainbow village but don't want to come out.

Subterfuge is for suckers. Say what you mean and be done with it.
never said I met him at a gay bar. Ive never been to a gay bar personally. I met him at a normal bar, and he made a comment about styles book, the game. We then proceeded to talk "the game".
 

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rjones said:
I didnt know straight women go to gay bars. Even if it works I still would never do that.
My ex used to go to gay bars all the time with her girlfriends (packs of 8-10). After I broke up with her, she picked up a straight guy from said bar, took him home and fvcked him, and made sure i found out about it.
 

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jamescr73 said:
never said I met him at a gay bar. Ive never been to a gay bar personally. I met him at a normal bar, and he made a comment about styles book, the game. We then proceeded to talk "the game".
Did he wear a neon pink sign which labeled him a PUA for all to see?

I just don't quite buy what you're selling. If you want to make a hustle picking up women at gay bars, please do it. But don't come up with some fanciful footwork about a rogue PUA.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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I dare you to try it

but you probably won't, so this is what you'll find. it's 90% guys trying to mack on each other and making out everywhere. the females you'll see, most of them are 150+ lb lesbians whose shoulders are wider than yours. and the 2 or 3 straight women who went there, if you can actually find them because I couldn't, went there because they specifically did not wanna get hit on

now I guess if you wanted a challenge, you could try sarging at a gay bar. but if you're the average straight guy, you'll either be wierded out by the environment, or you'll be bored as hell because it's basically a cckfest where everyone is happy except you
 

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Well go ahead, james, but watch your drinks. You don't wanna wake up at 4am in the morning in a strange place with a sore arse.
 

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Gay bars are amazing to learn about female perspective on how guys pick up. I went to few gay bars in my life and the guys were hitting on me. The thing is,they make same mistakes we make while trying to pick up. So you can see how it is to be on the other side..lol.
 

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I might go to a gay bar one time, I mean if I can't get women then maybe I can at least interact with men and stop short of the sexual stuff. Might be nice to feel wanted and all and even make some new friends, even if they are gay. Nothing worse than going to a normal bar and getting nothing time after time because you aren't english or you don't have a 'cool' social group primarily because you're not english.

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My hs gf was a lesbian for a while in college; I used to go out drinking with her and her gf. They both taught middle school together, so at least looked semi-normal. Gay people party; maybe it is the stress of being gay, but they get fvcked up a lot.

If you have some lesbo friends, a gay bar can be fun. I would *not* recommend trying to pick up what you think is a woman, caveat emptor on that issue. I did have a fag hag or two all over me a time or two; my female friends once told me that a girl was outside telling her friends that she was going to pick me up and take me home, probably because I was the only straight guy in the place, but I was always more interested in getting sh!tfaced drunk and hitting on my lesbo friends for a threesome than a ONS from a gay bar. I never got that threesome from them, but the ex did cheat on her gf with me; the lesbo thing was just a phase :)
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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