eaglez1177
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I can absolutely tell that sage is improving...Igetit your also being a hugee help nice job...keep it going sage and keep on absorbing the advice given
You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?
Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.
One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.
Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
"Gripped in fear"? That's a BAD SIGN man. If you're afraid to say something like that to a girl you've already had a date with and have known for over 4 months,then you're already off track.sageproduct said:Monday, February 22, 2010
It's been about 24 hours since I've read through Igetit's last post. The lingering AFC/beta/b1tch in me was gripped in fear after reading the "big boobs" suggestion,
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
I hear what you're saying man.saturos said:Going to have to disagree about the big boobs comment: i don't think that flies at all. None of my "natural" friends or people i know are ever that outright blunt. As far as i'd know, most girls would not look well upon a comment like that.
This won't work. Every guy here already knows not to tell a girl she's "hot". That doesn't create attraction,that just boosts a girl's ego and makes her go AW on you.saturos said:Maybe instead say you saw this hot girl who looked like her. Or something, other than "i saw a girl with big tits like you". Thats just my opinion
On this,I 100% agree. The thing is this though...saturos said:Edit: It largely depends on the girl too. And as far as i know mel k isn't one of the chicks you say stuff like that too without them feeling really uncomfortable.
+1 rep. on this Saturos. I can't argue with you on this one.saturos said:Plus thats really out of the fcking blue given that you havent really been that flirty.
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
A bit shallow? No,of course not. It's VERY shallow. It's objectifying as well,making it seem like you're only interested in "one thing".saturos said:Ya well the way i see it (regarding just the boobs comment) is that its a bit...shallow?
Well I've done it. Plenty of times. The only thing is,you have to do it with someone with whom you ALREADY have comfort with.saturos said:I don't know. Its not my style so i wouldn't claim to know about it that well.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Good book for social skillssageproduct said:EDIT: one last thing is,when I was first breaking out of being extremely antisocial I was studying Dale Carnegie's How To Win Friends and Influence People
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.