eaglez1177
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I can absolutely tell that sage is improving...Igetit your also being a hugee help nice job...keep it going sage and keep on absorbing the advice given
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
"Gripped in fear"? That's a BAD SIGN man. If you're afraid to say something like that to a girl you've already had a date with and have known for over 4 months,then you're already off track.sageproduct said:Monday, February 22, 2010
It's been about 24 hours since I've read through Igetit's last post. The lingering AFC/beta/b1tch in me was gripped in fear after reading the "big boobs" suggestion,
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
I hear what you're saying man.saturos said:Going to have to disagree about the big boobs comment: i don't think that flies at all. None of my "natural" friends or people i know are ever that outright blunt. As far as i'd know, most girls would not look well upon a comment like that.
This won't work. Every guy here already knows not to tell a girl she's "hot". That doesn't create attraction,that just boosts a girl's ego and makes her go AW on you.saturos said:Maybe instead say you saw this hot girl who looked like her. Or something, other than "i saw a girl with big tits like you". Thats just my opinion
On this,I 100% agree. The thing is this though...saturos said:Edit: It largely depends on the girl too. And as far as i know mel k isn't one of the chicks you say stuff like that too without them feeling really uncomfortable.
+1 rep. on this Saturos. I can't argue with you on this one.saturos said:Plus thats really out of the fcking blue given that you havent really been that flirty.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
A bit shallow? No,of course not. It's VERY shallow. It's objectifying as well,making it seem like you're only interested in "one thing".saturos said:Ya well the way i see it (regarding just the boobs comment) is that its a bit...shallow?
Well I've done it. Plenty of times. The only thing is,you have to do it with someone with whom you ALREADY have comfort with.saturos said:I don't know. Its not my style so i wouldn't claim to know about it that well.
You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.
These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.
Good book for social skillssageproduct said:EDIT: one last thing is,when I was first breaking out of being extremely antisocial I was studying Dale Carnegie's How To Win Friends and Influence People
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.