"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Rusty guy trying to return to the game

ZhaoYun

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Recently I just got out of an LTR. Things were great, I just found myself lusting over so many women that I felt it wasn't fair to the woman I was with to continue. So I broke things off.

Anyways, it's been a while since I've been on the grind with women so I'm kind of rusty. So far I'm happy with my success tho

I currently have 2 women that I see and trying to hook a third. The number she gave to me is a text only phone, but I see her at least once a week. I've been casually flirting with her for a few days in person. I took her home on Tuesday and when I dropped her off we had a nice convo

Me: So you're not going to invite me in?
Her: Well, you can come in but I have work to do. Don't you have to get something to eat? (I told her earlier had to meet up with some friends for lunch)
Me: Ah yeah - some other time ..soon then right. (I didn't say it like a question)
Her: Yeah just hit me up

When I got her number I always call to confirm. Surprisingly she sent me a text the same day asking a question she'd already asked me earlier. I thought that means she was very interested. So Thursday I let my persistance continue. In person I asked to get together tomorrow with a time and she countered, but seemed kind of hesitant. I was doing this in class so she probably just didn't want her business on blast. Plus we had a test coming up so I let it slide. After class I text her asking her about the test and we exchanged basic fluff about that until...

Me: So what time do you have class tomorrow?
Her: I don't
Me: I'd like to keep you company then
Her: Here? In a apt of females
Me: So you want me all to yourself then? Greedy!
Her: Um no. I do have a bf
Me: That's cool. I didn't say anything about a relationship I just want to get to know you better.
Her: Ok. you can chill in the livin room

Now since I've been out of the game for so long, I have no idea what to do here. I know this chick likes me, I'm just having a hard time deciding whether or not to go over there, take her somewhere else or just not go at all. I don't want anything serious with her - just some fun (multiple times if possible).

Also, I don't know how to fully interpret our text convo. I let my intentions be known, yet she's still down to see me. Any help would be appreciated..
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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eaglez1177

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Dude it doesnt really sound like shes interested....and plus shes got a boyfriend...thats gonna make things A LOT harder for you. Just next her.
 

ZhaoYun

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so if she wasn't interested why would she invite me over anyway?

Also, she didn't bother to mention the bf until I tried to be sarcastic with her which was my mistake. She's one of those that doesn't like sarcasm apparently.

I dunno, think I'm gonna go for it anyway. Also I'm not surprised there's not many responses to this because:

1) Maybe the post was too long and boring

2) Maybe I don't need advice afterall and continue to do my thing and eventually win.

Figures...
 

GuanYu

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Actually doesn't sound like you're rusty at all bro. You're doing everything right from what I can see. You're letting your intentions be known immediately and even tho she hit you with the bf card she still doesn't mind if you come over. Wonder what that could mean?

Something is definitely up though dude. Most girls that are happy with their bf's will immediately bring him up once you let your intentions be known. She didn't. Maybe you'll just have to work a bit extra to get her but I think it's doable.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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ZhaoYun

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I didn't get up with her today since I was busy with other stuff. I'll just play things smooth and occasionally flirt with her. If an opportunity presents itself great, if not no big deal. I think this chicks into me though.
 
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