Russia helping Bernie's campaign?

[samspade]

Bolshevik Bernie, champion of $15/hr min wage, got called out for paying his staffers less than $15/hr....

....he finally relented and paid $15/hr but had to reduce their hours to part time for it to be economically feasible.....

.....socialism.....

You are expecting a politician to do as he says. Left or right, not gonna happen. It's part of the profession, which is why they're lower than prostitutes.

 

[EyeBRollin]

It's hilarious that people think healthcare cannot exist unless it is socialized somehow.

As if Doctors didn't exist through-out history treating patients.

Take away HMOs and Government regulations and suddenly the market would fix itself at reasonable prices like it always does with EVERY OTHER item in the marketplace.

We already have “socialized” health care. Medicare and the VA. It’s not actually “socialized” we just bill the government instead of rip-off insurance company.

 

[EyeBRollin]

So you are opposed to it on ideological rather than pragmatic grounds?

Americans don’t want health care. It’s rather pathetic.

 

[Xenom0rph]

Americans don’t want health care. It’s rather pathetic.

I would fight tooth and nail to make sure you never have to pay a dime for my healthcare.... My health is my own personal responsibility.....you shouldnt be burdened with it.....

 

[Bible_Belt]

I would fight tooth and nail to make sure you never have to pay a dime for my healthcare.... My health is my own personal responsibility.....you shouldnt be burdened with it.....

Spoken like a healthy person. A lot of people aren't so lucky. Pep talks about personal responsibility don't treat very many medical conditions.

 

[Spaz]

I would fight tooth and nail to make sure you never have to pay a dime for my healthcare.... My health is my own personal responsibility.....you shouldnt be burdened with it.....

I wonder if you'll be singing the same tune if hypothetically ur future son suddenly has a rare type of cancer that needs millions of dollars just for treatment.

Karma can be a b1tch sometimes to just ignore politics.

 

[Xenom0rph]

I wonder if you'll be singing the same tune if hypothetically ur future son suddenly has a rare type of cancer that needs millions of dollars just for treatment.

Karma can be a b1tch sometimes to just ignore politics.

The onus would fall on my shoulders to care for my son as best I can.... It aint society's responsibility to cate for my children.....

 

[samspade]

I'm totally fine with chipping in to a nationwide pot to pay for a safety net for the poor and/or uninsured. I can afford it. If this is "socialist" then every service provided by government is socialist.

Besides, in the U.S. system you're already paying for it in your premiums. Every time an uninsured person gets treated and doesn't pay, you do. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

The free market would work well in theory, but health care providers have formed cartels to carve up territory and rig prices. Whenever I was employed I had a choice of maybe 1 (so no choice) or 2 providers. Plus they've hoodwinked Americans into paying the "copay" and the "deductible." Stupid system.

 

[EyeBRollin]

The onus would fall on my shoulders to care for my son as best I can.... It aint society's responsibility to cate for my children.....

What if you can’t?

 

[Xenom0rph]

What if you can’t?

...it still aint siciety's problem whether I can or cannot....did you really think I was going to change my position in a hypothetical situation where it affects my kin, or whether I can or cannot pay....???..

.....not everyone wants a nanny state and not everyone believes society owes them a safety net....

 

[Xenom0rph]

Karma can be a b1tch sometimes to just ignore politics.

BTW, karma is a delusional cope.....

.....The incel boys have presented me with convincing arguments about the naivete of karma and so i've unsubscribed from it....

 

[EyeBRollin]

...it still aint siciety's problem whether I can or cannot....did you really think I was going to change my position in a hypothetical situation where it affects my kin, or whether I can or cannot pay....???..

.....not everyone wants a nanny state and not everyone believes society owes them a safety net....

So you think people should die if they can’t afford treatment?

 

[Xenom0rph]

So you think people should die if they can’t afford treatment?

I think you should present convincing arguments about pro M4A instead of emotional pandering....

 

[Spaz]

BTW, karma is a delusional cope.....

.....The incel boys have presented me with convincing arguments about the naivete of karma and so i've unsubscribed from it....

Me an incel? Phulease don't talk nonsense.

Feel free to go visit any hospital ward filled with terminally ill kids, spend some time there, then come back here and tell me all abt ur politics.

Small kids are dying daily and yet here you are talking big.

I dare talk abt this because I spend a considerable amount sponsoring some kids treatment on a yearly basis, because I can afford to and they can't.

You must really believe that ur life can only go up and never go down.

Pride before the fall.

 

[EyeBRollin]

I think you should present convincing arguments about pro M4A instead of emotional pandering....

That’s a fail on the reframe. What is your solution for people who can’t afford treatment?

 

[Xenom0rph]

That’s a fail on the reframe. What is your solution for people who can’t afford treatment?

I dont offer any solution other than advise individuals to seek out charities, churches ir private institutions to help with the cost....it is not a public responsibility... And i've explained that we can't fund M4A because we need to fund the military to prop up the petro dollar....

....now present me sone pro M4A arguments that aren't a form of emotional pandering....

 

[EyeBRollin]

I dont offer any solution other than advise individuals to seek out charities, churches ir private institutions to help with the cost....it is not a public responsibility... And i've explained that we can't fund M4A because we need to fund the military to prop up the petro dollar....

Translation: beg for financial help. Great society you advocate for, buddy.

....now present me sone pro M4A arguments that aren't a form of emotional pandering....

Easy - Medicare works.

 

[Xenom0rph]

Translation: beg for financial help. Great society you advocate for, buddy.



Easy - Medicare works.

Medicare for seniors works bevause it is a small pool of individuals....expand that pool and it will tank the economy....

 

[Xenom0rph]

Not being an obese fat fvck is about personal responsibilites AND makes one more healthy.

I would fight tooth and nail to make sure you dont have to foot the bill for some leftist's sex change operation....

 

[EyeBRollin]

Medicare for seniors works bevause it is a small pool of individuals....expand that pool and it will tank the economy....

Nope. Where’s your evidence of that?

Benefits for elderly and military I am ok with. But that is not full blown Socialized like the wealth seizers want.

Medicare For All is the same as Medicare. That’s why it’s called Medicare For All.

And Insurance companies are FAR more efficient than the Government. Do you know why?

Efficient at earning profits for shareholders? I’ll give you that. But go ahead an enlighten me.