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Rule NUMERO UNO: Get her @#$% phone number!

BGMan

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This is for all you newbs out there, who have no idea how to get a girl, like yours truly a couple of years ago.

We have all been in that situation (unless you have been born with a knack for womanizing, like Jake Steed's friend). You see this girl around a lot. She's cute, she's sexy, and she has (insert your particular fetish here). You have even said hi to her a couple of times. You would like to get her out on a date, but don't know how to do it. Or you do know how, but don't know if you SHOULD.

Such pusillanimity won't get you anywhere. It's the MAN's job to be the aggressor. The woman ain't gonna do it, even if she's sweating you so bad she'd take a bullet for you. The next time you get into a conversation with her (even if it's very brief)...

GET HER @#$% PHONE NUMBER!

What's that? "Yabbut... yabbut... I'll get all nervous and screw it up!!" Well, who the heck HASN'T been, the first time you've done it?

Let me tell you something. The first time I tried jumping off a diving board at a swimming pool, I was terrified. I stood on there a full minute, while the kids behind me in the line muttered impatiently. I thought about chickening out and going back. But finally I sort of plopped into the water. It was frightening, but I felt like I accomplished something, albeit small. The next time, it still terrified me, but less. Now, I can DIVE off the high diving board with no sweat.

Okay, it still makes me nervous, and it probably always will. But the nervousness I feel is probably one-twentieth what it would be if I chickened out the first time, and every time after.

Getting phone numbers is the same way. The first time, you may screw it up, and if she refuses to give it to you, she'll most likely NOT go around telling her friends about what a wuss you are. But the second, third, fourth times you ask for it, it will get progressively easier. Just go up to her and ...

GET HER @#$% PHONE NUMBER!!

What? "Yabbut... yabbut... She's out of my league"! Just what do you mean by that? She's too pretty for you? Uh huh. I see beautiful women with average-looking guys ALL THE TIME. Why haven't YOU been able to get a beautiful woman? "What have they got that I haven't got? COURAGE!" (to quote the Lion in the Wizard of Oz) Courage to go for it anyway.

Here's something else you should remember. Everyone has their own standards of beauty. The girl you find drop-dead gorgeous may be ranked by all of your buddies as a 6 or 7. If I met Cindy Crawford or Julia Roberts or Britney Spears at a party, I wouldn't try to get her number, because for some reason, having brown eyes detracts about two or three points from my attractiveness scale. If you go after the girls YOU find attractive (and which you may consider "out of your league"), you'll be a lot better off than if you "settle" for a girl that's a 6 in your eyes, but a 9 in some other guy's.

So, I'm telling you again...

GET HER @#$% PHONE NUMBER!!!

All right, what now? "Yabbut... yabbut... she's my only love and if she turns me down I'll be CRUSHED!"

Ah yes, the old "one-itis" syndrome. I have had bouts of that myself. But it should be no big deal because how many women are there around? Right. No shortage at all, especially if you're in college or high school or working in a well-populated area.

And here's the good part. As you start to build yourself socially, and go for the number close, and get BETTER at it, more women will find you attractive, and thereby give you their numbers willingly. Even I, who two years ago was Mr. Inept Socio-Klutz Extraordinaire, now get an 80% success rate at the number close! 80%!

And also, this puts you WAY ahead of the competition! When I told some guys who were talking about how to "signal" girls that they want to date them, that I simply ask for their number, they took it as some major innovation, and worried that I'm being too "direct" by doing this!! If you're armed with an AK-47, and your competition has knives, who's gonna win?

Here's another thing to remember. Sh!t happens. The girl that shows high interest in you may make you think that you don't need to try anymore. Beware. Girls are notorious for flaking out, and the girl you perceive as Miss Right may do this to you (especially if you subconsciously exude neediness).

What's the best way to cut down on desperation? Well, if you're dating one girl and she dumps you, it'll hurt a lot, but if you're dating four, and one dumps you, no sweat, as you still have three others you're seeing! It is ESSENTIAL that you not put all your eggs in one basket!!

So even if you have a few numbers, and another cute trick comes along, I don't care, go up and...

GET HER @#$% PHONE NUMBER!!!!

Now enough of these "yabbuts" or I may mistake you for a scared little wabbit and take you out with a wifoed swugg.

BGMan

[This message has been edited by BGMan (edited 11-25-2002).]
 

Miles Davis

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This was a great post, BGMan! The diving board analogy is great, we've all been there before. I'm going to go out and score a few numbers NOW!

Miles
 

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Great tip !!

Getting her number is very simple after you know the basics and that's were you have to start.

It's what you do and how you act after you get it that really counts and thats what makes you a master!

Getting the number is like simply filling up your gas tank for a drive across the country! The journey has only begun
 

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excellent post! i've been procrastinating over a girl i REALLY want cause i'm gaming a few others that are already into me. Next time i see her i'm getting her number.
 

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Originally posted by sux2bu
:crackup:

*Boston
617-861-3962
**New York City
212-660-2245
New Jersey
201-808-6011
Philadelpha
215-618-1505
NEW: Cleveland
216-269-0085
***Miami
305-241-0033
***Orlando
407-338-0036
NEW: ***Tampa
813-273-8160
Phoenix
602-230-4210
Las Vegas
702-386-5397
San Diego
858-492-8002
NEW: San Jose
408-236-2060
New Hampshire
603-413-2340
Rhode Island
401-648-6543
Maine
207-376-0768
Atlanta
770-908-7383
San Francisco
415-356-9833
Denver
303-607-7527
Los Angeles
310-217-7638
Washington DC
202-452-7468
Chicago
773-509-5027
Seattle
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Baltimore
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Virginia
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Detroit
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Houston
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Dallas
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* More Massachusetts #s
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is that legal?
 

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Good point, I'm getting her number. If I can't say to myself "I got the number" or "I didn't get it, but asked" within 2 days from now, I won't be satisfied.
 

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So what do you do after you call and find out that she gave you a fake number just to get rid of you? Hey, y'know it happens.... :p
 

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So what do you do after you call and find out that she gave you a fake number just to get rid of you? Hey, y'know it happens....
First, I shoot myself to get rid of my miserable existence. Then, I go get some donuts. :D
 

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Originally posted by Skydiver43127
First, I shoot myself to get rid of my miserable existence. Then, I go get some donuts. :D
Anything with a hole huh? :crackup:
 

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It seems women in group is about 10 times harder as you haf to impress the friends as well and she might be less herself and show off in front of her friends by flaking. Thoughts on that? Though if there on their own it should be real easy.
 

Francisco d'Anconia

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I still don't get it why the number is so important. I had always thought that the whole idea was to have her agree to see you again, why not just set up a meeting then and there? I guess more guys enjoy spending time on the phone that we had ever expected.
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
I still don't get it why the number is so important. I had always thought that the whole idea was to have her agree to see you again, why not just set up a meeting then and there? I guess more guys enjoy spending time on the phone that we had ever expected.

How else are you supposed to contact the girl later without her phone number? You can set up a meeting right there but you still want the phone number.
 

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FM 3321 said:
How else are you supposed to contact the girl later without her phone number? You can set up a meeting right there but you still want the phone number.
Maybe it's just me, but when I tell a woman that I'm going to be at a certain place at a certain time and that she should be there too and she agrees, I see no point in getting her number. I'm confident that she'll show up, and she sees that because I'm not asking for a phone number to confirm.

Let it be said that in "some" instances she could flake, but if you know how to qualify and her interest level is high, the chances are minimal. If she's interested, she'll show up. If your game is on and you increase her interest level, she'll offer her telephone number readily (another qualifier).

What you guys need to understand is that both interested and uninterested women will give you their phone number (both real and fake). She'll only agree and show up on a date if she's interested. It's all about qualifying, get the picture?
 
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