"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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rock climbing as a date?

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for girls who have never done it before (99% of the population), would this be too much as a first date? i climb frequently, as well as do a lot of hiking and back country skiing.

when i do these activities i usually go with a designated group of buddies, mostly guys, do you guys think brining a college/club girl unto one of these trips is a good idea?

or should i stick with smaller things in my city?

thanks
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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i wouldnt, too much of a hassle to f'n look after her ass rock climbing.
 

Francisco d'Anconia

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How about something that will allow her to feel comfortable while getting to know you?
 
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coffee dates for first dates?

btw i have always been a group person, eating, clubbing, hanging out, etc, and i'm relatively new to the dating scene, i guess i should be fighting the temptation of group dates?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Centaurion

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Rock Climbing could be fun if you do it indoors at one of those rock climbing centres.

You could also go for a coffee date, but that requires you to be able to hold a convo and be a charming bastard.
 

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Centaurion said:
Rock Climbing could be fun if you do it indoors at one of those rock climbing centres.

You could also go for a coffee date, but that requires you to be able to hold a convo and be a charming bastard.

I agree. Do it in door that way she isn't that scared, and she will still associate you with 'being excited'!
 

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Going to some place for coffee sounds really boring to me. It reminds me of one of those guys who carry a laptop around with them. Additionally, I wouldn't want to spend too much time with some chick who's going to end up with stained teeth from drinking all that coffee. If she insists on meeting someplace like that, then I think you should have better things to do with your time.

I think you should have meet her place or your place to 'watch a movie' and just get sex out of the way, to be honest. If you can't pull that off, then how about a walk through the zoo followed by a picnic in the park (hopefully there is one nearby). Art museum is too quite for me.\

As far as rock climbing goes, that might be OK for some girls, but it's not for everyone. That's something I'd be more likely to do down the road. I really don't think you need to impress most women to sleep with them, since women are generally much more sexual than men to begin with.
 

Francisco d'Anconia

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It's funny to see just how many ways that guys come up with to avoid just sitting down with a woman face to face to get to know her. One day you guy's will realize that more guys than just you can take her rock climbing, movies, zoos or where ever. What you guys need to learn is how to get her interested enough in you, not what you do or where you take her.
 
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