"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I have heard contradicting responses from people who have read this book. What's your opinion. I'm still deciding if I want to buy this book.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Read it with an open mind without any specific expectations and then ask yourself whether you are comfortable with his perspective about wealth.
 

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I don't respect that book at all. Robert T Kiyosaki endorses the pyramid scam network 21 by amway. This one guy tried to get my into that stuff. Since I didn't know what pyramid scams were at the time, I went to an informational meeting. He gave me a ride and on the way there he played a cd of Kiyosaki. At the meeting, the presenters were talking how smart Kiyosaki is and also mentioned that Kiyosaki said that if he had to start all over again, he would do it though network 21. Near the end of the meeting when the guys were asking me for a buttload of money to join, it hit me that this is a scam. I then noticed that Kiyosaki's material played perfectly into the psychology tactics that network 21 used to recruit people.

I don't think his book was meant specifically to be used by network 21 as that book is successful on its own to make a lot of profit.

Take a look at the controversy section of this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Kiyosaki

Also, I noticed that the majority of the people who read rich dad poor dad are college students, unsuccessful adults, or adults who are successful at scamming people.
 

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IMO, good for motivation....not much else. It's a good read, but in the way of tips, lessons....it's no good.

It's worth a read though.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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spesmilitis said:
I don't respect that book at all. Robert T Kiyosaki endorses the pyramid scam network 21 by amway. This one guy tried to get my into that stuff. Since I didn't know what pyramid scams were at the time, I went to an informational meeting. He gave me a ride and on the way there he played a cd of Kiyosaki. At the meeting, the presenters were talking how smart Kiyosaki is and also mentioned that Kiyosaki said that if he had to start all over again, he would do it though network 21. Near the end of the meeting when the guys were asking me for a buttload of money to join, it hit me that this is a scam. I then noticed that Kiyosaki's material played perfectly into the psychology tactics that network 21 used to recruit people.

I don't think his book was meant specifically to be used by network 21 as that book is successful on its own to make a lot of profit.

Take a look at the controversy section of this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Kiyosaki

Also, I noticed that the majority of the people who read rich dad poor dad are college students, unsuccessful adults, or adults who are successful at scamming people.
So explain why increasing your passive income wouldn't be a good thing.
 

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I read the book, and I really enjoy his other material too. Now this book is obviously not perfect since it doesn't get into specifics and but it is more of an eye opener, and there is controversy on how his business practices are. (I am not going to get into more details, since it will take a long time to explain and this not a "business" site) Overall it's a good read !
 

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The book is motivational at best, a waste of money worst. I mean it is a little entertaining to read and the story is OK but it gives you very very general ideas. You will probably read it and then think, I already knew that. What we want to know is how to apply that knowledge, which is where the book is lacking.
 

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jvd said:
I read the book, and I really enjoy his other material too. Now this book is obviously not perfect since it doesn't get into specifics and but it is more of an eye opener, and there is controversy on how his business practices are. (I am not going to get into more details, since it will take a long time to explain and this not a "business" site) Overall it's a good read !

Actually please do! This is the "anything else" forum after all.
 

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"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Frenchconnection said:
Actually please do! This is the "anything else" forum after all.
If you want details on this guy, and his book, follow my link above.
 

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I agree with this Italian dude who's name I can't pronounce. Kiyosako has sound philosophy. And if you actually read his books he says multi level marketing is good in order increase sales skills and confidence to move onto bigger things. He doesnt directly say this will make you rich.
 

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This book is a whole lot of motivational thinking but absolutely no practical application, which makes it useless.

People should stop pretending to be money experts after reading this book.
 

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Luveno said:
This book is a whole lot of motivational thinking but absolutely no practical application, which makes it useless...
Not understanding the information would definitely make it useless.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Jayer said:
I agree with this Italian dude who's name I can't pronounce. Kiyosako has sound philosophy. And if you actually read his books he says multi level marketing is good in order increase sales skills and confidence to move onto bigger things. He doesnt directly say this will make you rich.
But he does show you how you use it among other methods as passive income in order to lower your taxable earned income.
 

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After I read it, I told my father that the entire book should have been 2 pages long. Good message, good advice, but too long winded. I think it was written for a Joe Lunchbucket audience with all its stories to keep the reader interested (and to add fluff so he could call it a book).

Check out eMyth, Sun Tzu, The Prince and the The Millionaire Next Door series. If you're into making money off trends, check out The Tipping Point.
 

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jt the azn said:
I have heard contradicting responses from people who have read this book. What's your opinion.
Everyone is familiar with "The Matrix" as it applies to women? It's the same with money, that's why people who aren't clued in about how to make REAL money in a reasonable period of time (while you are still young enough to enjoy it) are obviously inclined to give it a bad review.

Fact is, if you have read the book and feel it's a "scam" or "bad information" or whatever, you're smack in the middle of said Matrix.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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