"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Return of the Ditched HB!

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You may have seen my other thread in which a HB was ****ing around with me so I ditched her ass mid date. (http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=188137)

I didn't hear anything from her until today. I generally go into work on Sundays and punch out a bunch of things before the week starts (and this is well known around the office), she shows up (not typical of her) and asks to talk. I indulge her.

She says that it was rude of me to walk out to which I reply, you know, the whole evening was rude. Then she says that while she doesn't want to date now, she could she herself dating me in the future and wanted to know how I feel about that. I tell her frankly, no, I don't see that.

The entire time I act as ALPHA as I have ever been in my entire life. I treat her with an air of arrogance as she tells me she hasn't been able to focus on anything all weekend, and act like the whole thing is the least of my concerns.

As we part ways (I was going home) I get a parting jab. She is dressed down and wearing some pretty horrific shoes. I tell her that its unprofessional and looks like something salvation army wouldn't give away for free. I smile, wink, and walk away.

Her friend texts my friend later (same players from the first post) that she had to counsel this HB for an hour because she was so upset with how things went.

Pimp hand remains strong.

John :trouble:
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Some of the most incredible stuff I've read on the site; hope she was really hot man.
 

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Black Dog said:
Some of the most incredible stuff I've read on the site; hope she was really hot man.
Really hot. Girl is a glutton for punishment it seems. I treat her like **** that night and ignore her, and now her IL is back up. Not sure I want to pursue this any further...but maybe an attempt at a booty call? Feels good to be on top, but I would like to seal this deal too.
 

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johnhat57 said:
Really hot. Girl is a glutton for punishment it seems. I treat her like **** that night and ignore her, and now her IL is back up. Not sure I want to pursue this any further...but maybe an attempt at a booty call? Feels good to be on top, but I would like to seal this deal too.

You played it outstandingly. Kudos for you.

I think you positioned yourself perfectly. Thats the way to play hot girls. They may not admit it but when you put them in their place its a turn on for them because it exhibits alpha characteristics. That you wont take shyt from her no matter how hot she is.
 

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You played it outstandingly. Kudos for you.

I think you positioned yourself perfectly. Thats the way to play hot girls. They may not admit it but when you put them in their place its a turn on for them because it exhibits alpha characteristics. That you wont take shyt from her no matter how hot she is.
Thanks man? Thoughts on trying to go further with this?

Pro's
- I can tell she'd be an animal in the sack
- Hot as hell

Con's
- It may just be me, but I feel weird hooking up with a chick that I know is hooking up with other dudes
- Work together
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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gaspipe said:
You played it outstandingly. Kudos for you.

I think you positioned yourself perfectly. Thats the way to play hot girls. They may not admit it but when you put them in their place its a turn on for them because it exhibits alpha characteristics. That you wont take shyt from her no matter how hot she is.
Thanks man? Thoughts on trying to go further with this?

Pro's
- I can tell she'd be an animal in the sack
- Hot as hell

Con's
- It may just be me, but I feel weird hooking up with a chick that I know is hooking up with other dudes
- Work together
 

johnhat57

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gaspipe said:
You played it outstandingly. Kudos for you.

I think you positioned yourself perfectly. Thats the way to play hot girls. They may not admit it but when you put them in their place its a turn on for them because it exhibits alpha characteristics. That you wont take shyt from her no matter how hot she is.
Thanks man? Thoughts on trying to go further with this?

Pro's
- I can tell she'd be an animal in the sack
- Hot as hell

Con's
- It may just be me, but I feel weird hooking up with a chick that I know is hooking up with other dudes
- Work together
 

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This is the best possible outcome. You walk away with all the power while she drools over you.

Way to turn the tables, man. Johnhat: I tip my hat to you, brother:rockon:
 

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Just an update. I've been nailing this HB for the past week. Guess some things work out.

Now just trying to not get attached...
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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