Young Juan
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Curious to see if anyone with experience can provide insight: Is there any way this works without one party converting?
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
Religious Differences: Christian Male, Muslim Woman
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"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Mantis Toboggan
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Much like other religions, there's always the possibility of religion NOT dominating the lives of this woman and her family. There are plenty of regular folks out there who say "Hey I believe in one god. You believe in one god. That's close enough."
If either side is hardcore about their religion, then obviously it's not going to work out longterm. But you could say that about anything.
If either side is hardcore about their religion, then obviously it's not going to work out longterm. But you could say that about anything.
Diaforetikos
Senior Don Juan
What Mantis said.
To be honest, it wont work. Unless you act like a real christian. Like for reals. True love man. And don't force your religion down her throat. Even Jesus didn't do that.
I'm just being real man. I know first hand.
To be honest, it wont work. Unless you act like a real christian. Like for reals. True love man. And don't force your religion down her throat. Even Jesus didn't do that.
I'm just being real man. I know first hand.
Young Juan
Senior Don Juan
Let me clarify: the issue isn't between us, it's between our families and/or us...continue
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
There is no reason why having sex outside of marriage would make you a "fake" Christian.J Roc said:
It may be hypocritical, and it may be considered wrong (according to the Bible), but it is accepted that everyone is a sinner.
powpow
Senior Don Juan
The Bible says to be equally yolked bro. This means shes gotta convert or its not gonna work out. You know this.
KarmaSutra
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Eventually you'll want anal.
You'll try guilting her into it by bludgeoning her repeatedly over the head with the Bible.
She'll retort with summoning 72 virgin demons on you.
Is this broad really worth the eternal damnation and torment?
You'll try guilting her into it by bludgeoning her repeatedly over the head with the Bible.
She'll retort with summoning 72 virgin demons on you.
Is this broad really worth the eternal damnation and torment?
Diaforetikos
Senior Don Juan
This thread is officially out of hand.
Huffman
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Well if you're gaming a muslim woman and she's over 20, chances are she's already married 
Seriously though, I LOVE exotic girls. Arab women, especially with the headscarf, wear makeup in a form that makes their face look incredibly beautiful... but some things just don't fit. Other than "true love" and a life full of prejudice and sacrifice, I don't think you have much options.
Then again, I think it depends on the girl's family. There are some very moderate muslims, for example from Turkey, where the whole thing could be a minor issue. Then again, if she's Arab or Bengali, they could be very rigid.
Seriously though, I LOVE exotic girls. Arab women, especially with the headscarf, wear makeup in a form that makes their face look incredibly beautiful... but some things just don't fit. Other than "true love" and a life full of prejudice and sacrifice, I don't think you have much options.
Then again, I think it depends on the girl's family. There are some very moderate muslims, for example from Turkey, where the whole thing could be a minor issue. Then again, if she's Arab or Bengali, they could be very rigid.
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Mantis Toboggan
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There's a lot of fake Christians out there then, eh?J Roc said:
Rhoto
Master Don Juan
If you're dating no problem.
If you're getting married, she has to convert, or the family won't honor the marriage. Idea being, if the Man is a Muslim, and the woman is not - he will allow her to continue to practice her religion, but raise his children as Muslims.
A Muslim woman marring a non-Muslim man is frowned upon because you run the risk of not being allowed to practice Islam.
Islam is an interesting religion. I'd at least become familiar with it - check out this book. http://www.amazon.com/Islam-101-Principles-Arshad-Khan/dp/0595262996/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1299000858&sr=8-1
Presuming shes bona-fide.
If you're getting married, she has to convert, or the family won't honor the marriage. Idea being, if the Man is a Muslim, and the woman is not - he will allow her to continue to practice her religion, but raise his children as Muslims.
A Muslim woman marring a non-Muslim man is frowned upon because you run the risk of not being allowed to practice Islam.
Islam is an interesting religion. I'd at least become familiar with it - check out this book. http://www.amazon.com/Islam-101-Principles-Arshad-Khan/dp/0595262996/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1299000858&sr=8-1
Presuming shes bona-fide.
powpow
Senior Don Juan
extramarital sex does not make you a non-Christian.
But it is a sin. Which throws you in the same bin as everyone else on the planet. Thats why grace is such a good thing.
But it is a sin. Which throws you in the same bin as everyone else on the planet. Thats why grace is such a good thing.
betterthandead
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Depends how both of you are serious about religion. If you go to church every Sunday and she does that Sunset head bowing down thing every day, then it's going to be a problem in the long run.
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Thundernuts
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Dude, you will have plenty of chances to shove objects down her throat. Plenty. Honestly, don't even worry about it unless you've been with her for awhile. And if she turns you down because of your religion, be a man about and show respect, religion is one of the fundamentals of a society. Islam is on the other side of the world so naturally it can conflict with our version of religion. But that doesn't mean it can't work.Diaforetikos said:
And besides, even if you can't marry her, you can still put things inside of her, just don't beat her with a bible. Even Jesus didn't do that.