Relationship are hard work no matter what

[H8CourtshipWithAPassion]

its natural for it to require more work of men than of women, since the burden of leadership has always been and likely always will be on mens shoulders, yet men are not supposed to view it as work or a burden, people and society say men are supposed to embrace that role.

 

[Pandora]

The difficulty of any relationship is directly proportional to the consideration and maturity of the two individuals in that relationship.

The more difficult and less considerate a person is, the harder they are to get along with. In a relationship, if it is going to last, the relationship must be the highest priority. Selfish people have a tough time being considerate of others. This translates to greater difficulty in relationship.

facts

 

[Pandora]

Relationships are hard work, regardless of how it ends, if it even ends.

Weirdly enough, stumbling upon this forum is one of the luckiest acts a man can do.

Men really are the basis for how any relationship proceeds. If men are not as informed, not as active, not as assertive, not as hardworking, then ultimately the relationship is bound to fail.

We have to make it work, and we have to make them listen to us, otherwise they end up living life the way they want to, which is sometimes fine, and usually bad.

I know I'm not the smartest nut in here, but if there's one thing I've noticed, humor is a worthwhile skill to learn.

We are also endowed with foresight, so be more specific in what you see in the future. Once you're both married, what do you see in 5 years? 10 years? 25 years? At what year do you think a kid is best? Throughout your relationship, when is it good to listen to her? Since sometimes, women really give good insight about life.

Know what you want, and when you want it.

This sounds like good advice. Interesting.

 

[Pandora]

There are ways men can COLLECTIVELY fix marriage and end women’s anti-social behaviors and nation- and family-wrecking ideas and “movements,” but doing so would require what even the biggest tough-guy red-pill gurus don’t have the nerve to do. Implementing them would, to their dismay, a would also render “game” dead.

Haha i think I know where this is going. There are men in other parts of the world who have implemented this and are very happy. Us cowards in the West dont have the balls to do it.

 

[Bingo-Player]

Picking the woman he marries and has children with is probably the biggest decision a man will ever make

Some men will take the decision lightly and shack up with whatever is available then wonder why it falls to sh1t

Other men will marry women who are fundamentally only with them for some sort of surface level value exchange and once the value runs out the relationship falls apart

I won't get started on arranged and cultural marriages

I know plenty of marriages that are hard work ( my parents ) being the first that comes to mind with my mother being BPD
Somehow they have made it work for 20+ years mainly due to my father bending to her will

There are 1 or 2 marriages that I know that seem to work in harmony but they are undoubtedly rare

 

[Scaramouche]

Hi Pandora,
"There are men in other parts of the world who have implemented this and are very happy".On examination most of these Guys just slipped into the mold,and conformed to their Culture...."Us cowards in the West dont have the balls to do it."....Well those who do,soon have empty Beds,because our Women will behave according to their cultural expectations....Sure,we may control the progress of the relationship,but they are certainly gatekeepers to svexuality.

 

[revannt]

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Relationships are hard work no matter what. My soon to be brother in law married a Muslim virgin. Good looking girl from a good intact family in a " Muslim" country.

They are having serious issues less than 2 yrs in. Shawty is a menace. Mouthy and kind of lazy.

I got a close friend of mine who married a Mormon girl. She was not a virgin ( I dont think) but her family was heavy in the church. They both were. Years later big divorce and she has jail time etc.

This whole thing is a giant crap shoot. Some people get very lucky and marry a sane person. For the rest of us we have to try our best to make our relationship a healthy one.

There is no better just trade offs. If you want sanity you have to trade off in looks. If you want maturity you have to trade off in age etc.

Im at the point of ima just marry this girl put a kid in her and prepare the best I can for some bullshyt. I dont know anymore.

is it possible ot have a relationship that doesn;'t have a tradeoff in an y of these?