"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Rejected!

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Nah it wasnt bad. But i did get turned down.

This chick at work always flirts with me and **** always touching me and getting right up in my face to talk and staring into my eyes n ****.

Shes got her little nickname for me, gringo or some **** lal, but so my buddy sees her flirting with me and hes like "dude, get her ****ing number so we can double date". I was like ok will do...so...

I come up to her and im like.
Me- What do you guys do for fun in Monteray (where she lives)
Her- Oh we drink and smoke some weed, and play sega and old school nintendo blah blah blah
Me - Oh cool, were gonna have to hang out, but im not smoking weed, so no peer pressure.
Her- Ok, but (something about i cant get with her because she has a boyfriend)
Me- Oh no if i was going to ask you out i would have already done it (lying my ass off obviously but i WANTED to say "Whats ur ****ing point"...but didnt.
Her- Ok just making sure. (as i was walking off)

I suck. The end.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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LOL, I take it that this chick is Latino?

Gringo is spanish for either white boy or Americano.
 

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LOL, I take it that this chick is Latino?

Gringo is spanish for either white boy or Americano.
Nah shes white, she is just mildy retarded.
 

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yep said:
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I come up to her and im like.
Me- What do you guys do for fun in Monteray (where she lives)
Her- Oh we drink and smoke some weed, and play sega and old school nintendo blah blah blah
Me - Oh cool, were gonna have to hang out, but im not smoking weed, so no peer pressure.

Dude, no good here. Translation: "When we hang out, I'm not going to do what you do and I don't want you to force me to do something either" She hasn't even given the green light to ask her, and you're already implying you will get together.

What you should have said:

"I enjoy Sega too. Perhaps we could get together and talk about it some more over coffee?"


Her- Ok, but (something about i cant get with her because she has a boyfriend)
Me- Oh no if i was going to ask you out i would have already done it (lying my ass off obviously but i WANTED to say "Whats ur ****ing point"...but didnt.

Translation: I asked you out and assumed you already said yes, but since you shot me down and told me had a bf, I'm quickly backtracking to make sure I don't look like a fool in front of you.

What you should have said:

"Oh that's too bad, I would have loved to get to know you better. Well, maybe some other time, some other place."


Her- Ok just making sure. (as i was walking off)

I suck. The end.
You didn't make her feel important and wanted in the conversation. You made it feel like you just wanted to smoke weed, play games, and screw her brains out. Granted, even if you were like James Bond she would still have had a boyfriend, but she would have been thinking about you alot more after you left.

Props for trying.
 

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DonJuan11 said:
You didn't make her feel important and wanted in the conversation. You made it feel like you just wanted to smoke weed, play games, and screw her brains out. Granted, even if you were like James Bond she would still have had a boyfriend, but she would have been thinking about you alot more after you left.

Props for trying.
I told her i dont smoke weed, and (didnt tell her but) i hate the **** outta sega. Screw her, yes.

Thx for the advice, ill keep that in mind for next time :yes:

Come to think of it she seemed kinda sad after i left (like all mopey and sad like her puppy died) , i think i made her feel bad but later i cracked a few jokes and made her smile so hopefully i didnt hurt her little feelings (im a ****...)
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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DonJuan11 said:
"I enjoy sega too, perhaps we can get together and discuss it over coffee"
:crackup: lol are you being serious there? Ok, i don't agree with asking a girl to get together and discuss sega over COFFEE lol. I think that's an ideal time to be playful and challenging.

"I enjoy sega too, i bet i'd kick ur ass at sonic." with a sly smile

Yep, challenging, ****y, playful..
 

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yep said:
Nah shes white, she is just mildy retarded.
Weed does kill brain cells.

P.S.
Don't EVER talk about Sega or any video games over coffee hahaha...
 

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You did the right thing by asking her out. You did what you had to do.

Props for trying.
 

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yep said:
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Me- What do you guys do for fun in Monteray (where she lives)
Her- Oh we drink and smoke some weed, and play sega and old school nintendo blah blah blah

I suck. The end.
I hate to put u on blast partna' but if your story really is what u say it is and you said the things u claim to have said than 1) u didn't do anything wrong and this girl is f---ing geek who is not worth your time. Or 2) You're living in a fantasy world and need a new hobbie because the probability of an HB being interested in old school sega or nintendo has about the same odds as...use your imagination.
I'm by no means an expert but encouraging your fantasies r not going 2 do u any good!!
 

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Never, ever suggest to hang out with a girl. NEVER. You asked for that rejection bro. Suggesting to hang out sometime is 9 out of 10 followed by some variant of "I have a boyfriend."

I do give you props for trying.

BTW, DonJuan11 gave you the answer to your situation.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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muffin said:
I hate to put u on blast partna' but if your story really is what u say it is and you said the things u claim to have said than 1) u didn't do anything wrong and this girl is f---ing geek who is not worth your time. Or 2) You're living in a fantasy world and need a new hobbie because the probability of an HB being interested in old school sega or nintendo has about the same odds as...use your imagination.
I'm by no means an expert but encouraging your fantasies r not going 2 do u any good!!

If your suggeseting im lying im not, thats exactly what hapend almost word for word, ( my memory is not perfect ) .

She is prolly at 3/5 on my richter scale. Not perfect by any means but not ugly either.

So take ur "hatorade" and "drop that **** like its hot" cuz the "**** be annoying dawgz".

K
 

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daygameguy said:
You did the right thing by asking her out. You did what you had to do.

Props for trying.
Agreed.

And I do not agree with "talking over coffee" but DonJuan11's response was perfect. instead of talking over coffee I would have arranged a time to meet up and actually _play_ sega with her
 
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