"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Hi there!
There are entire communities about Redpillers and EXRedpillers.
Where is the sosuave threshold? Just curious about it
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Hi there!
There are entire communities about Redpillers and EXRedpillers.
Where is the sosuave threshold? Just curious about it
I accept red-pill truths but dislike all red-pill gurus and much of their advice and what they promote.
 

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There is no such thing as an "ex-redpiller".

Most people just don't understand the red pill.
 

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There are red pillers, "purple" pillers, and black pillers here. I don't think it really matters what label you wanna use. The zealots who've read too much Rollo or Rich Cooper or old school PUA stuff seem to have a mindset of "this is the way things are, just accept it bro" and are among the worst crowd, and they are always red-pilled because they view the red pill as an ideology not a philosophy. Regardless I would say I am red pilled (philosophically) but I do think the movement has some flaws. For instance I dislike the labelling of everyone as alpha or beta, and while those characteristics are a real thing, it's a bit cringey and reductionistic.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Hi there!
There are entire communities about Redpillers and EXRedpillers.
Where is the sosuave threshold? Just curious about it
There's also Post-Manosphereans. Slowly but surely, more of us are recognizing that none of what came to be labelled Red Pill Knowledge in the mid 2010s is especially new*, and that this entire notion of dividing all thought into polarized categories("Red Pill" really just means "Sufficiently orthodox", "Blue Pill" is but a euphemism for "Heresy"/"Blasphemy")is really just religious fundamentalism

*Same way Post-Feminists recognized the intellectual and moral bankruptcy of Feminism, as far back as The 1900s https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postfeminism , and by extension acknowledged that women and alike have been agitating for personal liberty unhindered access to resources, regardless of gender, looooooooong before The 1960s https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protofeminism
 
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I've lost notifications for this post!

I don't know; there are people who demonize the red pill and anything that falls within the looksmax realm. From my own life experience, I can firmly say that some content related to the red pill, black pill, and looksmax is quite legitimate.
I've seen this in real life and how people respond to those elements as well.

It's just real! The guys on looksmax are pretty exaggerated, but some content holds truths!
In Italy, we have something we call "giusta misura" and "buon senso," which is similar to the "red pill" philosophy without necessarily knowing or reading about it.
It suggests that in every situation, we must evaluate the highs and lows and strive to find a balance.
What do you think about it?

 

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I accept red-pill truths but dislike all red-pill gurus and much of their advice and what they promote.
Most RP guru's are frauds and aren't guys that I would look at as "ladies men" much less "Alpha" I know blue pill guys IRL who are far more "alpha" than your favorite redpill guru and get better women too

I personally think for myself, not saying RP doesn't have truth's but the last few years it's turned into a lame gimmick for dorks with everyone trying to cash in
 

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Another thing is, the fact that Justpearlythings was the biggest content creator after Andrew Tate spoke volumes
You have a lot of Simp-Dorks donating to a hard 4 at best, it just lets you know how down bad a lot of men are
THis is why I don't feel sorry for most men, if you can't get a Pearl(those girls are a dime a dozen on dating apps) than you really need to work on yourself full stop
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Justpearlythings was the biggest content creator after Andrew Tate spoke volumes
It is amazing that Pearl (JustPearlyThings) has more YouTube subscribers than Fresh & Fit, Rollo Tomassi, or Rich Cooper.

You have a lot of Simp-Dorks donating to a hard 4 at best, it just lets you know how down bad a lot of men are
Men are not doing well on the whole.

THis is why I don't feel sorry for most men, if you can't get a Pearl(those girls are a dime a dozen on dating apps) than you really need to work on yourself full stop
Someone like Pearl would have abundance on dating apps. There are plenty of average range looking women (rating 4-5.9) who have hundreds on men in their swipe queues.
 

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Someone like Pearl would have abundance on dating apps. There are plenty of average range looking women (rating 4-5.9) who have hundreds on men in their swipe queues.
My point still remains girls like Pearl are very easy to smash, they are socially awkward, not hot, and will do anything and everything if you ****'em down good. Honestly I wouldn't be able to **** Pearl unless I was drunk and on a viagra LMFAOOO
 

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Hi there!
There are entire communities about Redpillers and EXRedpillers.
Where is the sosuave threshold? Just curious about it
My take is that this is not religion, I follow no one, and there are no absolute truths.

There's just useful information for me to accept or discard, and my views are flexible.

The thing about the RP is that like a lot of group think it can attract weak minds who need to follow someone. So you get the whole cult dynamic. Men simping for their Dear Leader. This can happen with any "ideology," so I try to stay unattached to any belief but just go with my own flow.
 

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This is how some of these guys end up as guru or cult leader. Lonely young men looking for a strong male role model and mistaking some blowhard macho to be the type of man they aspire to be.
And then those cults bicker and divide themselves. Worship his shoe! No, his gourd!

I have always theorized that was L. Ron's Hubbard's grand practical joke on humanity.
 

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Let's not start bashing 'religions'.

The main thing is all these PUA blowhards with their 10,000 lay count and yachts full of supermodels are not really role models. And the courses they sell to their 'followers' are expensive tripe.
I've met some of the biggest names in the RP community(or converse with on the phone or online) just from networking behind the scenes (this isn't a secret) most of those guys are not qualified to be coaches, you have some guys who may be able to get women but are super average. You got some guys that don't practice what they preach and do everything they tell their audience not to do. Heck you even got Rollo Tomassi(I never met him) who published a book recently titled "The Players Handbook" but the guys been married for over 30 years wtf does he know about being a player in 2024? the game has changed a lot since 1990, unless Rollo is cheating on his darling wife. (which wouldn't shock me)

Most RP/PUA guru coaches are grifters you got some that are even paying women's rent, and buying them thousands of dollars worth of gifts. The reason why the RP is seen as a joke with the populous. Is because you got clowns running it, and Pearl is the leader(if you going of numbers alone, she's on top). To any true high-value man they see the RP guru's for what they are, a bunch of dorks who want to rebrand themselves as "The Cool Kids" saying asinine things, to go viral. Even Andrew Tate didn't wanna be associated with the RP although he certainly used the RP audience to hit a lick.

Sadly in the next 5-10 years I see the Blackpill stuff becoming bigger as AI becomes more prominent in society. Which IMO is even worse than the RP
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I just believe what I believe, if it falls into one category or out of another I don't really care. Some of you go too far down the rabbit hole trying to figure out what it is you believe in. Almost like you can't think for yourself.
 

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you even got Rollo Tomassi(I never met him) who published a book recently titled "The Players Handbook" but the guys been married for over 30 years wtf does he know about being a player in 2024? the game has changed a lot since 1990, unless Rollo is cheating on his darling wife. (which wouldn't shock me)
Tomassi published "The Rational Male: The Players Handbook" in 2022. I read it in 2023. Tomassi has been married since 1996 and in the same relationship since 1995. The critique that you made of Rollo Tomassi is the most common critique out there. It's amazing that his marriage has lasted 28 years but his marriage length isn't sustainable for a lot of men. Most of the "The Players Handbook" would be based on observation and conversations with other men. That is a limiting factor.

in the next 5-10 years I see the Blackpill stuff becoming bigger as AI becomes more prominent in society. Which IMO is even worse than the RP
The black pill ideology has been growing faster than the red pill ideology since the mid-2010s and I expect that trend to continue.
 

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I just believe what I believe, if it falls into one category or out of another I don't really care. Some of you go too far down the rabbit hole trying to figure out what it is you believe in. Almost like you can't think for yourself.
You have an identity and believes.
How do you keep an open mind and not a "fixed" mindset?
Even if "fixed" mindset people are more attrattive to woman
 

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You have an identity and believes.
How do you keep an open mind and not a "fixed" mindset?
Even if "fixed" mindset people are more attrattive to woman
Thats a great question and not an easy one to answer. I think having "awareness" of yourself and others helps you to remain open minded. Having empathy also helps and a desire to always learn from a situation.
 

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Where did you get that notion?
Real life experiences. It's real.
I see many "fixed" and "ignorant" man which have easier life than "intelligent" and "rational" guys, because they get easier "irrational confidence" and they get women easier.

What's up bout you?
desire to always learn from a situation.
I think this is so important
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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