Redpill and ExRedpillers

[jhonny9546]

Hi there!
There are entire communities about Redpillers and EXRedpillers.
Where is the sosuave threshold? Just curious about it

 

[Kotaix]

You're going to need to provide more context

 

[Manure Spherian]

Hi there!
There are entire communities about Redpillers and EXRedpillers.
Where is the sosuave threshold? Just curious about it

I accept red-pill truths but dislike all red-pill gurus and much of their advice and what they promote.

 

[MAB]

There is no such thing as an "ex-redpiller".

Most people just don't understand the red pill.

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

There are red pillers, "purple" pillers, and black pillers here. I don't think it really matters what label you wanna use. The zealots who've read too much Rollo or Rich Cooper or old school PUA stuff seem to have a mindset of "this is the way things are, just accept it bro" and are among the worst crowd, and they are always red-pilled because they view the red pill as an ideology not a philosophy. Regardless I would say I am red pilled (philosophically) but I do think the movement has some flaws. For instance I dislike the labelling of everyone as alpha or beta, and while those characteristics are a real thing, it's a bit cringey and reductionistic.

 

[BaronOfHair]

Hi there!
There are entire communities about Redpillers and EXRedpillers.
Where is the sosuave threshold? Just curious about it

There's also Post-Manosphereans. Slowly but surely, more of us are recognizing that none of what came to be labelled Red Pill Knowledge in the mid 2010s is especially new*, and that this entire notion of dividing all thought into polarized categories("Red Pill" really just means "Sufficiently orthodox", "Blue Pill" is but a euphemism for "Heresy"/"Blasphemy")is really just religious fundamentalism

*Same way Post-Feminists recognized the intellectual and moral bankruptcy of Feminism, as far back as The 1900s https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postfeminism , and by extension acknowledged that women and alike have been agitating for personal liberty unhindered access to resources, regardless of gender, looooooooong before The 1960s https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protofeminism

 

[jhonny9546]

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I don't know; there are people who demonize the red pill and anything that falls within the looksmax realm. From my own life experience, I can firmly say that some content related to the red pill, black pill, and looksmax is quite legitimate.
I've seen this in real life and how people respond to those elements as well.

It's just real! The guys on looksmax are pretty exaggerated, but some content holds truths!
In Italy, we have something we call "giusta misura" and "buon senso," which is similar to the "red pill" philosophy without necessarily knowing or reading about it.
It suggests that in every situation, we must evaluate the highs and lows and strive to find a balance.
What do you think about it?

The Most Dangerous "Red Pill" Lie | by Michael Chief | in ILLUMINATION - Freedium

It&#39s the same sh*t marketers and cults use.

freedium.cfd

 

[Solomon]

I accept red-pill truths but dislike all red-pill gurus and much of their advice and what they promote.

Most RP guru's are frauds and aren't guys that I would look at as "ladies men" much less "Alpha" I know blue pill guys IRL who are far more "alpha" than your favorite redpill guru and get better women too

I personally think for myself, not saying RP doesn't have truth's but the last few years it's turned into a lame gimmick for dorks with everyone trying to cash in

 

[jhonny9546]

I know blue pill guys IRL who are far more "alpha" than your favorite redpill guru and get better women too

This is the bluepilled italian with the "buon senso" behaviour

 

[Solomon]

Another thing is, the fact that Justpearlythings was the biggest content creator after Andrew Tate spoke volumes
You have a lot of Simp-Dorks donating to a hard 4 at best, it just lets you know how down bad a lot of men are
THis is why I don't feel sorry for most men, if you can't get a Pearl(those girls are a dime a dozen on dating apps) than you really need to work on yourself full stop

 

[SW15]

Justpearlythings was the biggest content creator after Andrew Tate spoke volumes

It is amazing that Pearl (JustPearlyThings) has more YouTube subscribers than Fresh & Fit, Rollo Tomassi, or Rich Cooper.

You have a lot of Simp-Dorks donating to a hard 4 at best, it just lets you know how down bad a lot of men are

Men are not doing well on the whole.

THis is why I don't feel sorry for most men, if you can't get a Pearl(those girls are a dime a dozen on dating apps) than you really need to work on yourself full stop

Someone like Pearl would have abundance on dating apps. There are plenty of average range looking women (rating 4-5.9) who have hundreds on men in their swipe queues.

 

[Solomon]

Someone like Pearl would have abundance on dating apps. There are plenty of average range looking women (rating 4-5.9) who have hundreds on men in their swipe queues.

My point still remains girls like Pearl are very easy to smash, they are socially awkward, not hot, and will do anything and everything if you ****'em down good. Honestly I wouldn't be able to **** Pearl unless I was drunk and on a viagra LMFAOOO

 

[Vanderdonck]

Hi there!
There are entire communities about Redpillers and EXRedpillers.
Where is the sosuave threshold? Just curious about it

My take is that this is not religion, I follow no one, and there are no absolute truths.

There's just useful information for me to accept or discard, and my views are flexible.

The thing about the RP is that like a lot of group think it can attract weak minds who need to follow someone. So you get the whole cult dynamic. Men simping for their Dear Leader. This can happen with any "ideology," so I try to stay unattached to any belief but just go with my own flow.

 

[Vanderdonck]

This is how some of these guys end up as guru or cult leader. Lonely young men looking for a strong male role model and mistaking some blowhard macho to be the type of man they aspire to be.

And then those cults bicker and divide themselves. Worship his shoe! No, his gourd!

I have always theorized that was L. Ron's Hubbard's grand practical joke on humanity.

 

[Solomon]

Let's not start bashing 'religions'.

The main thing is all these PUA blowhards with their 10,000 lay count and yachts full of supermodels are not really role models. And the courses they sell to their 'followers' are expensive tripe.

I've met some of the biggest names in the RP community(or converse with on the phone or online) just from networking behind the scenes (this isn't a secret) most of those guys are not qualified to be coaches, you have some guys who may be able to get women but are super average. You got some guys that don't practice what they preach and do everything they tell their audience not to do. Heck you even got Rollo Tomassi(I never met him) who published a book recently titled "The Players Handbook" but the guys been married for over 30 years wtf does he know about being a player in 2024? the game has changed a lot since 1990, unless Rollo is cheating on his darling wife. (which wouldn't shock me)

Most RP/PUA guru coaches are grifters you got some that are even paying women's rent, and buying them thousands of dollars worth of gifts. The reason why the RP is seen as a joke with the populous. Is because you got clowns running it, and Pearl is the leader(if you going of numbers alone, she's on top). To any true high-value man they see the RP guru's for what they are, a bunch of dorks who want to rebrand themselves as "The Cool Kids" saying asinine things, to go viral. Even Andrew Tate didn't wanna be associated with the RP although he certainly used the RP audience to hit a lick.

Sadly in the next 5-10 years I see the Blackpill stuff becoming bigger as AI becomes more prominent in society. Which IMO is even worse than the RP

 

[The Duke]

I just believe what I believe, if it falls into one category or out of another I don't really care. Some of you go too far down the rabbit hole trying to figure out what it is you believe in. Almost like you can't think for yourself.

 

[SW15]

you even got Rollo Tomassi(I never met him) who published a book recently titled "The Players Handbook" but the guys been married for over 30 years wtf does he know about being a player in 2024? the game has changed a lot since 1990, unless Rollo is cheating on his darling wife. (which wouldn't shock me)

Tomassi published "The Rational Male: The Players Handbook" in 2022. I read it in 2023. Tomassi has been married since 1996 and in the same relationship since 1995. The critique that you made of Rollo Tomassi is the most common critique out there. It's amazing that his marriage has lasted 28 years but his marriage length isn't sustainable for a lot of men. Most of the "The Players Handbook" would be based on observation and conversations with other men. That is a limiting factor.

in the next 5-10 years I see the Blackpill stuff becoming bigger as AI becomes more prominent in society. Which IMO is even worse than the RP

The black pill ideology has been growing faster than the red pill ideology since the mid-2010s and I expect that trend to continue.

 

[jhonny9546]

I just believe what I believe, if it falls into one category or out of another I don't really care. Some of you go too far down the rabbit hole trying to figure out what it is you believe in. Almost like you can't think for yourself.

You have an identity and believes.
How do you keep an open mind and not a "fixed" mindset?
Even if "fixed" mindset people are more attrattive to woman

 

[The Duke]

You have an identity and believes.
How do you keep an open mind and not a "fixed" mindset?
Even if "fixed" mindset people are more attrattive to woman

Thats a great question and not an easy one to answer. I think having "awareness" of yourself and others helps you to remain open minded. Having empathy also helps and a desire to always learn from a situation.

 

[jhonny9546]

Where did you get that notion?

Real life experiences. It's real.
I see many "fixed" and "ignorant" man which have easier life than "intelligent" and "rational" guys, because they get easier "irrational confidence" and they get women easier.

What's up bout you?

desire to always learn from a situation.

I think this is so important