"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Recovery from saying something stupid

BluEyes

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Hey

I find in small social gatherings(5-10 people), my energy levels shoot down and I mentally switch off, so to speak. However I still try to be social so I don't get the old "What's wrong with you tonight" or "Are you okay?". The problem is, when I'm social during these times, I tend to say dumb things especially to guys.

Like, in clubs or bars or school or parties or 1-on-1 or whatever, I'm pretty good with conversation and never get the "wtf are you talking about" look.

Question: Either, how do you guys recover(verbally) from saying something dumb, or how do you NOT say dumb things? Like, good comebacks or guy-negs, etc...

I'm one of those guys who just speaks his mind whenever, so sometimes dumb things tend to come out of my mouth that tend to make people think im an idiot. Dumb comment + my muscular physique = people think I'm dumb.

I'm great at talking to girls and controlling group conversations, it's just when everything starts to settle down and I talk about something, I sometimes get the "you're retarded" look. It bugs me.

peace
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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samueladams

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who the fvck cares what a guy thinks? I mean we all say dumb crap sometimes...don't sweat it...if you're just around dudes who cares...if its mixed then i dunno don't say the dumb crap you're saying...not much can tell you how not to say this crap
 

BluEyes

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I'll have to work on it..

It's just difficult because my conversations are so natural and unmechanical that I don't think about what I'm saying at all, it just sort of comes out.

Perhaps I'll take myself down a notch, and work on the other 93% of communication(body language, mannerisms, voice tone, presence, facial expressions, etc) for awhile.

I'll make it a summer project, starting tomorrow.

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On a side note, my parents and most of the adults I talk to tell me to never let go of my "randomness" because it sets me apart from the masses, and how I speak my mind without thinking about consequences is a gift... I'm sure it is with seduction, but in casual/social settings with guys, its more of a curse. Around chicks I'm pretty alpha, but around guys I let myself fall to the bottom end of the social chain. Funny thing is, most guys are intimidated by me(pretty well built now, very good at talking to girls, etc). lol god i hate being judged. whatever...

as spider man says: It is my gift, it is my curse.

I'll work on it, and I suggest anybody else with this issue get on the bandwagon as well, in becoming more smooth/suave in conversations with guys.
 

Microphone Fiend

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the block list seems a little childish. If you blocked them, why do you feel the need to tell us or them? You are just invoking more flaming from them...


Anyways, on to the topic. Some Mitch Hedberg stuff usually works
Wikipedia said:
Hedberg often joked with the audience if they hadn't reacted particularly well to a joke: "That joke's better than you acted. Perhaps it's not, maybe it's dumb, it could be." In the unedited Strategic Grill Locations CD, he tells a joke that did not receive any laughs, to which Mitch stated: "Alright...that joke is going to be good because I'm going to take all the words out and add new words. That joke will be fixed."
Maybe not the same stuff he said, but the general idea that if a joke bombs, it happens. Its just water rolling off your back. Put one bad joke in perspective. Your lack of being funny today will be funny as hell tommorow.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Obsidian

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On a side note, my parents and most of the adults I talk to tell me to never let go of my "randomness" because it sets me apart from the masses, and how I speak my mind without thinking about consequences is a gift...
they're mostly right, especially when you're dealing with girls. Acting like that is one of the best ways to entertain girls, in my experience. They usually think random, creative stuff is funny.
 
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