"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Really nice chick tells me that the relationship is Platonic!

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Okay i had this real fun relationship going with this one chick. Everything was working in my favor when suddenly outta the blue she tells me that the relationship we're having feels pretty Platonic. Well i really did cut down on the mush cause i know that she doesn't like mush much. Typical woman problem.

Thing is, she's one girl i'm really into - more than all the women i've dated combined!

Please HELP! :)
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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blueline

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sounds like you haven't fucked her yet. give her some anal sex and show her who's boss.
 

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Agree with blueline. The relationship wouldn't be platonic if you were banging her. Sounds like you didn't step up to the plate.
 

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ah...i guessed as much, but she's not the kind who gives in easily. Any suggestions on what my next move should be?
 

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therocker said:
ah...i guessed as much, but she's not the kind who gives in easily. Any suggestions on what my next move should be?
Well your first move should be to not call it a "relationship" unless there's sex involved. Maybe it's just a small a language barrier, but when I think of "relationship" I think of a man and woman going on dates and having sex.

A girl you're spending time with and NOT having sex with might as well be a man.

I can't even tell you the next move. Sounds like you've already given a lot of time to this girl and whatever you were doing made her think of you as platonic.

If a girl said that to me, my next move would be to disappear for a little while and give it a try sometime down the road. Or forget about her all together.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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blueline

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just forget about it. when the girl says it's platonic, end it.
 

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blue line, your advice are excellent. Do not misinterpret it as a sarcasm. It is my sincere compliment.
 

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The first words out of your mouth should have been:

"Thank GOD! It would be like boffing my sister! So tell me Sis, can you introduce me to your hot friend Angela? Cause I really want to sleep with her!"

Anytime a woman tells you the relationship is platonic, she wants to see other people, or she loves you but isn't IN love with you...you should AGREE WITH HER!

Tell her you are SOOOOO RELIEVED! That you, also, don't find her sexy, want to date hot women & like her as a friend. This will seriously screw with her head that a guy she didn't find "up to her secret standards" finds HER less than amazing!

She will be crawling back as soon as she sees you with another girl!
 

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I'm struck by OP's comment of "I was too mushy and she isn't into mush. Typical woman problem."

Umm...no, mush is only a problem when men act mushy. Women love mush, but not from men they are going to get horny for.

Someone get OP a shot of manliness, stat!

OP you just really, really need to dig into SS for a couple weeks. Then, when you're ready, go check out Roissy's blog and prepare to have your MIND BLOWN lol.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Me said:
Be more open about your intentions. If she knows that you're interested in her sexually and/or are looking for a relationship then she won't friendzone you. Friendzoning is completely and 100% caused by not revealing your intentions and hoping either that she'll just spontaneously decide she loves you, or waiting for the perfect time that never comes.

Be more open and you won't get in the friendzone. Otherwise, this is probably game over with this chick.
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