"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

Read more...

Re: What does she mean when she says "You're too handsome for me"?

machinegunetiquette

New Member
Joined
Apr 19, 2013
Messages
7
Reaction score
0
Hi. I've met this girl on facebook and we've been chatting for awhile and the last time we chatted she said that I'm too handsome for her. Does this mean she's still romantically interested me, or is she putting me in the friend mode?

Thanks.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

Read more...

VladPatton

Master Don Juan
Joined
Aug 26, 2012
Messages
3,246
Reaction score
232
Location
NYC
Tell her "you're probably right!" It's a test to see how you react.
 

machinegunetiquette

New Member
Joined
Apr 19, 2013
Messages
7
Reaction score
0
Vlad, my question to you, however is, after I say, that, should I compliment her on her beauty or say that inspite of her statement being truthful, I chose her?
 
B

BeDJ

Guest
Put yourself in her shoes. When would you ever tell a women that she is too _______ for you?
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

Read more...

plate's_empty

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Apr 4, 2013
Messages
476
Reaction score
13
Location
California
VladPatton said:
Tell her "you're probably right!" It's a test to see how you react.
yeah, nice. She's expecting you to melt into a chump and compliment her and tell her how good she looks and blah, blah, blah. Do the opposite.
 

machinegunetiquette

New Member
Joined
Apr 19, 2013
Messages
7
Reaction score
0
To Begginning DJ: I'd never say that to her, even if I lacked confidence, because I'd get over that lack of confidence right away.
To Plate is Empty: I think you're onto something.
Thanks guys.
 

machinegunetiquette

New Member
Joined
Apr 19, 2013
Messages
7
Reaction score
0
Guys: I hate bothering you guys again, but because your responses have made me brainstorm a little more, I should probably add the entire sentence she mentioned. She said something to the manner of "I don't think I am your ideal woman. You are too handsome for me." You guys are sure she is not trying to put me in the friend mode?
Again, thanks.
 

plate's_empty

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Apr 4, 2013
Messages
476
Reaction score
13
Location
California
yes, a test, she could not even know what she wants. Maybe she does really think you're too "handsome" for her. She's interested. But once you lower yourself to her level and not be the "too handsome guy" she's going to become disinterested. Keep her interest level up. Keep being the "too above me guy" and you'll be in a good spot ;)
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

Read more...

VladPatton

Master Don Juan
Joined
Aug 26, 2012
Messages
3,246
Reaction score
232
Location
NYC
machinegunetiquette said:
Vlad, my question to you, however is, after I say, that, should I compliment her on her beauty or say that inspite of her statement being truthful, I chose her?
Just basically ignore it. It is a weird thing to say to someone in the initial stages. She may have low self esteem and does want you to lower yourself to some level she sees fit as the other guys said. When you do, she'll then loose interest because, well, you're lesser of a guy now lol. It's ridiculous.

Ignore all comments you don't understand and proceed as usual. Ask her out and go on a date.
 

floydb25

Master Don Juan
Joined
Sep 26, 2011
Messages
1,762
Reaction score
108
Location
NC
VladPatton said:
Just basically ignore it. It is a weird thing to say to someone in the initial stages. She may have low self esteem and does want you to lower yourself to some level she sees fit as the other guys said. When you do, she'll then loose interest because, well, you're lesser of a guy now lol. It's ridiculous.

Ignore all comments you don't understand and proceed as usual. Ask her out and go on a date.
Too true. As always, this is why you don't believe, assume, or act on what they SAY. Literally as they're saying these things, or being bothered by whatever - they're pursuing you harder, being intrigued by you, getting caught up in the challenge, viewing you as the top prize, etc. Don't go against the grain, and lower yourself to appeal to their supposed wants. Don't make yourself more "normal", focus solely on her, reassure her of this and that...

Follow their actions and interest level - not what they say.
 

bigneil

Banned
Joined
Oct 20, 2006
Messages
8,265
Reaction score
2,644
Location
Texas
Take no action - wait to see if too handsome to see is handsome enough to pursue.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

Read more...

The Duke

Master Don Juan
Joined
Feb 4, 2008
Messages
6,548
Reaction score
11,523
Typically girls who make statements like this are very insecure. They know a man who is "attractive" has options. She will perceive this as a constant threat to her own security and take it out on the guy.
 

zinc4

Master Don Juan
Joined
May 17, 2007
Messages
3,044
Reaction score
1,425
tell her she should be more confident in herself..seriously what a turn off though...i would already have lost any attraction for her if she said that to me...no challenge..
 

floydb25

Master Don Juan
Joined
Sep 26, 2011
Messages
1,762
Reaction score
108
Location
NC
Howiestern said:
Typically girls who make statements like this are very insecure. They know a man who is "attractive" has options. She will perceive this as a constant threat to her own security and take it out on the guy.
A lot of guys act like this too... with male friends. But either way, it just becomes a big ego competition - with guys or girls. Insecure people are trouble; most of them are *******s who need to have the upper-hand and be in control as a result of their inferiority and failure. Bad news.
 

Thomas Dooley

New Member
Joined
Jan 3, 2017
Messages
1
Reaction score
0
Age
56
Briefly introduce to your little sidekick and see how handsome you really are. If he's outgrown his hiding place, then "Handsome", won't be in her vocabulary, as she'll more than likely have her mouth full of your meat in a matter of minutes. Women shouldn't be saying those things, let alone even talking, so when I hear a woman start talking, anything, I make sure it's when her mouth is full. Then, I just nod my head up and down and say some crap like, "Yeah, ok."
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

Read more...

Top