Rate this guys face plz

[Bigpapa]

So my advice has always generally been to get as good looking as possible, then hit on lots of girls! The 'game' part is really about not having so much 'anti game' that you manage to screw it up with girls who want you

the issue is not that looks is big percentage of the equation, especially when it comes to the ceiling in quality you can get

the issue is that this guy is neurotic and super extreme in what he is saying, basically saying that you are either elite levels in looks and get laid either not and you do not get laid at all. Which is BS!

only the idea that you need to be a 10/10 guy to have a chance with a 5/10 is extreme, just as the pua guys parroting that looks does not matter at all and you can be a 5/10 yourself and bang 10/10 left and right

same as when it comes to height, that if you are not X height you are doomed and have no chance whatsoever. Seen plenty of cases where the girls were slightly or even significantly taller than the guy ( with no heels )

 

[Cheeky_James]

the issue is not that looks is big percentage of the equation, especially when it comes to the ceiling in quality you can get

the issue is that this guy is neurotic and super extreme in what he is saying, basically saying that you are either elite levels in looks and get laid either not and you do not get laid at all. Which is BS!

only the idea that you need to be a 10/10 guy to have a chance with a 5/10 is extreme, just as the pua guys parroting that looks does not matter at all and you can be a 5/10 yourself and bang 10/10 left and right

no dude.
That wasn’t my intention.
My OP stated these guys are TOP TIER (9, 10) dudes.
As I saw someone rate Turner as a 7 (!) lol. Absolutely laughable that rating.
That was you actually if I recall.

It was just a reality check as it seems up guys don’t understand the gap between your own personal SMV and a guy like these 3.

this is what guys seem to do
Overrate themselves
Underrate other guys

to try close the gap in their mind and cope.

I never said guys going down the scale of smv from 8,7,6,5,4 etc guys CANT get women. I never said that. Or only 10 guys can get 5 women (you made that jump)

What I at am saying is that a guys Looks /Face is the Paramount, Primary factor in why a woman picks a man.
It’s 90% of how any man gets any woman . All the way down the scale probably down to the midrange idk , where personality is possibly a ‘swing factor’. Possibly. The ‘just be first’ theory in there also. Meeting as teenagers and LTR forever etc.

Leaving aside Money and Status out of the above.

I’m saying that Callum Turner is Top Tier
And even stripping away his money and status
He would still looks match with a woman that looks similar to Dua Lipa. Get that?

also importantly as this is a forum where ‘Don Juan’is a label (and a big part of the discussion, or so I thought coming here)
I thought I’d point out the very big correlation between any dude who is an acfual Don Juan as having great Looks. Handsome- to-very Hansome Face.

and that his “skill” at pickup = mainly, his FACE like it’s pretty much (rounded up ) 100% his Looks.

so that means the “skill” of the Don Juan is not actually ‘learnable ‘ for guys with less face , average face or ugly faces

does that compute?

 

[BeExcellent]

@BeExcellent
What about gorgeous George
Is he your cup of tea

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I do find George Clooney handsome/sexy. He also is known to be quite charming & intelligent and is a well known prankster (sense of humor & fun). His looks are fading now but his other attributes make him quite attractive. I greatly dislike his politics, but that is another matter.

I find Craig Ferguson attractive. I also think he is quirky and funny.

Again. More than just looks factor in.

Interestingly I never found Leo DiCaprio particularly attractive, ditto Brad Pitt, they always looked like baby faced boys to me BUT Brad Pitt is much more handsome now as an older man than he ever was as a younger guy.

People can have similar features but look very different.

Attraction happens at an individual level. So generalizations don't capture the nuances.

Its like art. Some people go wild for Picasso. Some people go wild for Joan Miro or Salvador Dali or Van Gogh or Renoir or Charles Russell or Rembradt. But people have differing taste in all things that involve subjective preferences. Art, fashion, music, human appearance.

You continue to take a very absolutist view. You are not the arbiter of what appeals to me (or anyone else) as an individual. Each individual gets to decide that for him or herself.

Are there general trends? Sure. But those general trends do not capture nuance. They cannot.

Looks are NOT 90% of how a sensible sought after woman chooses. Not at all. In fact, for a woman who lots of handsome guys want? Well 100% of her choices are very good looking. It is a given. She chooses based on other things aside from looks.

Looks only get you access. Who you are beyond looks is what makes you stand out.

Now. If a girl isn't hot enough that all her choices are good looking? Then perhaps appearance is more a factor. But for beautiful women who have tons of handsome men to choose from? Looks are a requirement to get an opportunity, but not why she chooses a particular man.

Dadynamically used to talk about that constantly around here. He understood that very well.

 

[sevbucmash]

I see plastic surgery all over that face. Ear lobes and ear to eye line tells the tale, though. He did a nose job to remove the hump. The guy did other plastic surgery on his face. Face is made to look good. I think it's a solid 7, not 8, not 7 and then some, and not 6 or less. 7.

The guy is tiny hat thought, imagine him with nose and without other facial plastic surgery.

 

[sevbucmash]

In terms of crowd, I'd say this guy is Fontainebleau material, not quite Faena or Setai or Baca Raton Resort. Someone who'd show off, rent, and ****, instead of someone who moves and carries power.