"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Rant: I have a boyfriend

The Forms

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I just got done from hanging out with some friends. We live in Nashville, and are all musicians. One of the people I was with is a well known country singer (HB 9). At one point it's just me and her sitting at a high top table in the middle of this super packed bar.

This guy walks up and starts trying to talk to her. While he's walking over she starts kicking me to get my attention about this dude. I noticed him trying to get her attention just before. He comes up and starts talking to her. She's a big girl, so I'm not going to jump in and scare him off unless I need to. (You can look at this guy and tell he has no game). After a minute she grabs my hand and (it's so loud I can't hear her) proceeds to tell this guy I'm her boyfriend.

He keeps pestering her though. She leans over and kisses me to try to get him to leave. Once I get up and say "what's going on here man" he finally walks away.

A minute later the band plays one of my favorite songs. So I jump up and run up right in front of the stage and sing along. Cause it's an awesome song. When I come back to the table (maybe three minutes later) the same dude is over there trying to talk to her again!

So I walk up and put my arm around her, get between them. She says to him, "I'm with him. This is my boyfriend" and I give her a little kiss.

So I ask "what're you trying to do here man?" and he's starts trying to say that even though she's here with me (her supposed boyfriend), she should go and dance with him anyway. I just stand right in front of her and freeze him out till he walks away.

What on earth is up with some guys? When a girl says "I have a boyfriend" nine times out of ten she's saying "I'm not interested" but she's trying to be nice about it. Trying to help you save face. Most girls don't want to outright reject you. They feel bad. Maybe some guys can overcome this rejection and still get the girl, but this guy had no game.

When a girl says "I have a boyfriend" you need to say "OK. It's been nice meeting you. I'll see you later" and then you leave. I don't know why some guys STILL try to get the girl to carry on with them. Maybe he's one of those guys who approaches girls like sales, how you have to overcome objections and all that. But some people just don't want to be sold to.

Ugh. OK. The rant's over.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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sca_p

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The Forms said:
When a girl says "I have a boyfriend" you need to say "OK. It's been nice meeting you. I'll see you later" and then you leave. I don't know why some guys STILL try to get the girl to carry on with them.
I agree 100%. Is it so hard to accept the fact that a girl isn't interested in you? Or that she might actually have a boyfriend? Pestering girls who are taken (or claim to be taken out of convenience for rejecting you) isn't manly--it's rude and obnoxious.
 

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sca_p said:
I agree 100%. Is it so hard to accept the fact that a girl isn't interested in you? Or that she might actually have a boyfriend? Pestering girls who are taken (or claim to be taken out of convenience for rejecting you) isn't manly--it's rude and obnoxious.
No, you just don't know how to game them.

Just because she says "I have a boyfriend", doesn't mean sh!t. She could be really into you, and be thinking of sex with you, but is feeling guilty, so she has to mention it to make herself feel better.

"I have a boyfriend" just means you have telegraphed too much interest.

You don't need to walk away, you could still get her number. What if she was to break up with him the next week? You guys are doing it wrong, don't walk away at the drop of that single line.

"I have a boyfriend"

"Awesome, can he cook? Maybe we could get together sometime and he can cook us dinner".
 

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Lust said:
No, you just don't know how to game them.

Just because she says "I have a boyfriend", doesn't mean sh!t. She could be really into you, and be thinking of sex with you, but is feeling guilty, so she has to mention it to make herself feel better.

"I have a boyfriend" just means you have telegraphed too much interest.

You don't need to walk away, you could still get her number. What if she was to break up with him the next week? You guys are doing it wrong, don't walk away at the drop of that single line.

"I have a boyfriend"

"Awesome, can he cook? Maybe we could get together sometime and he can cook us dinner".
This is really some of the worst advice I've heard. So maybe if you've been talking to this girl for alittle bit and you can tell she's digging you and she mentions the boyfriend, you might could get around this objection and still get some. Definatly not with the line Lust just gave us, but if that's the kind of guy you are you might could pull it off. Whatever, that's not what this thread is about. This thread is about guys who walk up to a girl, try to get her to dance/talk, and within 10 seconds she brings up the boyfriend.

OK, so maybe in some crazy, alternate universe what Lust said makes sense in this situation, but typically when a girl says she has a boyfriend, she's trying to get rid of you. This isn't some objection to find a clever reply to. She's giving you an easy out to walk away.

Take it. If you keep going you just look like a major douche. It's embarassing, really.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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