Rant about women

[Viking25]

Why is it lately I meet women who act like fukking princes? This one for example. Met her online, few e-mails later I offered to meet up and go see a sports game. So on that day I call her one hour before we suppose to meet up just to make sure everything is still cool,she puts me on hold for a minute and then says that she will call me back and then we can go. So I wait...no call. I didn't call her back either. Next day she catches me online and tells me a story how an old friend showed up..and bla..bla..bla. and she is sooo sorry! I'll make it up to you!..WTF?
So I am ok,a day later I invite her to take a walk with me in the park...it was nice weather and ****..lol. We go for a walk..and she seems into me. (but wtf do I know?) I gave her a hug at the end and told her I want to see her again. Called her up and planned for a real date!
A day before the date,she catches me online again and asks me where we gonna go...I tell her,she doesn't like the place and tells me to come up with something else!!!..I told her:" since you rejected my idea,feel free to suggest something fun yourself" She is reluctant..and at that point I am too.
Why is my job to come up with a date ideas? Isn't it the purpose of the whole date to have fun and get to know each other and it's beneficial for both people? I wasn't sure about pursuing her after she rudely didn't call me back the first time,but now I am getting frustrated with this because, seems like, this is a natural behavior for women.
They expect you to first approach them,then chase them...come up with date ideas and sh1t,mind you at this point you are not getting any!
I think David D said :" Dating is for women I am already sleeping with!" So true!
So what do ya think? Do I ask too much or am I after women who are not interested in me in a first place? I think the latter.

 

[Tails]

haha, you and i think alike my friend. the sad truth is that women like confidence and men who take control and know what they're doing. in other words, she probably wanted you to organise a different place, not ask her. it's up to you to make it all happen.

but that is just what most men do if they wanna score. i, however, don't do that anymore, i'm kinda lazy and i can't be bothered wasting my time with all that bullsh|t. i feel much better if the girl helps me out organising a date. i'm not a damn dog who chases meat just to score. overall, i am fine being single for now. sure, i'd love to have a gf. it's a great feeling. but to hell with all that chasing crap, for now anyway. i just don't dig it anymore. i honestly feel like a dog always trying to pick up a girl, get her number, call her, make dates, call her again, blah blah. sorry, fuk you and fuk you, but i'm not chasing anymore... at least for a long time.

mind you, the only times i've ever had a girlfriend is because the girl chased me. now THAT is what i'm talking about
but at least i helped the girls out in the process, unlike when we try get a date with a girl, it seems we're the only ones putting all our effort into it. these days i just go study and have fun with my friends, i'm doing okay. i often get hello's from girls anyway, i like that. i put effort, so should she. or, she puts effort, so should i. i have no problems there. but if it's just me doing all the damn work, then she's wasting my time. i guess i have to thank my dad for the way i look, hehe.

feel free to tell me i'm a dikhead and i am wrong, but that's what my story is

 

[Viking25]

You are a MAN! Tails!..
That was the point of my post...when girl doesn't contribute...bad sign!!!
Everytime I ended in a relationship..the girl was putting a good effort into dating in the begining..ie: calling me,asking me out to go places. Of course I would contribute as much. But the ones who I had to chase..- never got anything good from them,just wasted time and money.

 

[Tails]

aha, there you go

and it's almost 90% always that way. it's just a really good feeling know the girl puts effort into it.

my last girlfriend, that was great. i was not very happy those days, she was always calling the house phone and also annoying me on MSN messenger and asking for my friend (i lived with four friends), cause he gave her his number at the place he worked when she came in. so i kept being rude and telling her no and saying bye straight off. then after a few times, she'd tell me to wait, she wanted to talk to me. so we began to talk, i began to open up a little more and be happy. she asked me almost every question you'd ask a girl just to get a damn number. she asked for my number (cell phone), she called that just to see if i wasn't lying. so we talked and talked every night for hours, she was putting alot of effort into it as was i. unfortunately, after five months of dating, i dumped her. she wasn't for me at the time. she was too crazy. but that was just because of the way i was back then.

another time, i gave a girl MY number and just left. i never even really talked to her. she sat next to me and my friends on the train. they were chatting her up and i was just laughing inside my head watching them fools try their moves. all i did was give her my number. she called me next couple days, we got together, got it on! she even wanted a relationship, but i didn't. so that was that. ever since her, i've been staying low and just having fun with my single life until i meet a girl who's willing to put effort and time into a date, followed by maybe a relationship.

 

[MetalFortress]

It's a man's job to take the lead. I don't know about you, but I like doin' the job, and girls love it when a guy takes the lead too. Besides, it's a lot better than some feminist accusing you of being controlling because she's been training to go after submissive guys, and a real man scares her.

 

[Viking25]

Originally posted by MetalFortress
It's a man's job to take the lead. I don't know about you, but I like doin' the job, and girls love it when a guy takes the lead too. Besides, it's a lot better than some feminist accusing you of being controlling because she's been training to go after submissive guys, and a real man scares her.

It's a man's job to chase after someone who is not interested in you? It's a man's job to provide hors with intertainment? It's a man's job to pay for hors who are reluctant to do anything to help you both have fun?
I think it's AFC's job!

 

[Tails]

haha. i think he meant: "it's a dogs job."

 

[MetalFortress]

Originally posted by Viking25
It's a man's job to chase after someone who is not interested in you? It's a man's job to provide hors with intertainment? It's a man's job to pay for hors who are reluctant to do anything to help you both have fun?
I think it's AFC's job!

This is assuming she DOES have interest level. There is a such thing as passive interest, you know, as in she won't show it directly, not much at least, but she will show it indirectly by allowing you to do a lot. These are submissive girls who like to be led by a MAN. And if you're not up to the job, leave it to a real man.

And if she doesn't have interest level, shut up and find a girl who DOES, and who is not a "hor". For someone who throws around the word AFC, you seem to be frustrated, chumpish, and not exactly above average.

 

[MetalFortress]

Originally posted by Tails
haha. i think he meant: "it's a dogs job."

Yeah, a brave one, not one who tucks his "Tails" between his legs and runs

 

[Tails]

brave? who said i wasn't brave? i said i just dont like being a dog chasing around unless they chase me too. i never said i was not brave. i am very very confident. know your facts before you start typing.

 

[MetalFortress]

Originally posted by Tails
brave? who said i wasn't brave? i said i just dont like being a dog chasing around unless they chase me too. i never said i was not brave. i am very very confident. know your facts before you start typing.

Obviously you are scared to take the lead, or else you wouldn't be slamming me for saying it's a man's job. IT IS.

 

[Tails]

Originally posted by MetalFortress
Obviously you are scared to take the lead, or else you wouldn't be slamming me for saying it's a man's job. IT IS.

you're a very lost soul. e-mail me sometime bro, i am here to help you

 

[Mazman]

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You two made plans.

She never called back.

I would have stopped right there. This girl has no or very low interest level in you. After this my interest level in her would have dropped greatly anyway. I wouldn't have wasted anymore time with her.

 

[MetalFortress]

Originally posted by Tails
you're a very lost soul. e-mail me sometime bro, i am here to help you

Burgle another turd and shut up. Your attempt at humor fails miserably.

 

[backbreaker]

once I let a girl make plans... Yeah I remember that day. I ended up at her best friends house at 1 oclock watching sex and the city (which I actually like, but you get the point).

never again have I asked a girl to make plans. i take suggestions, but that's it.

 

[Ol'BlueEyes]

So on that day I call her one hour before we suppose to meet up just to make sure everything is still cool,she puts me on hold for a minute and then says that she will call me back and then we can go. So I wait...no call. I didn't call her back either. Next day she catches me online and tells me a story how an old friend showed up..and bla..bla..bla. and she is sooo sorry! I'll make it up to you!..WTF?

Highly suspicious behavior....this should've sent red flags up.

I'll make it up to you!..WTF?

Fine....she owes you for blowing you off.

A day before the date,she catches me online again and asks me where we gonna go...I tell her,she doesn't like the place and tells me to come up with something else!!!..I told her:" since you rejected my idea,feel free to suggest something fun yourself" She is reluctant..and at that point I am too.

This is how she "made it up to you"?

As to your question, guys plan the date because we're the ones who are selling ourselves. It's assumed that you're interested in her already (that's why you asked her out, right?). Your job now is to see if she likes you. So you take her out, to a place where you feel comfortable, to gauge her interest. The only times girls plan first dates are if they're setting their girlfriends up on blind dates.
By the way, I'd ditch online chat as a way of setting up a date. Use the phone.

 

[squirrels]

Just out of curiosity, what was your date idea that she didn't like?

And it's not a bad idea to have TWO things in mind when you call for a date.

Remember, when you go on dates, do stuff that YOU want to do. Don't cater to her or do traditional dating stuff because it's what you're SUPPOSED to do. Suggest things that you'd probably do anyway but that are a lot better if you have a girl along.

And have two somewhat different ideas of things you can do. If she rejects both of these things (and they're things YOU like doing), it's time to reconsider whether you and this girl are compatible.

 

[Viking25]

AN UPDATE!
...After she was reluctant to suggest any other place for us to go,she didn't contact me in any way.Neither did I. I haven't said anything rude or appeared to be pissed off. I hope that she had some interest in me and will eventually call me.
I guess my rant was about how we (men) have to sell ourselfs to women. ALL of the women I tried to date,I have to drag them by their feet or convience them that it is worth their fukking time to go out with me.! Doesn't do any good to my selfesteem. Why can't they want to go out with me because I am this good and worthy person to let me into their life?
Next time I will choose something I like to do on a date and will have fun reguardless.

 

[undesputable]

im not trying to be a *****, but it looks like you have no idea of what you were doing, im not an expert myself, but you deffintly need some pointers. first of all dont set up a date with her, tell her youre going somwhere and if she wants to join shes welcomed, if she doesnt tell her how much shes missing. if she says shes going to join you and she bails out on you, make sure to let her know is not ok to waste your time and make her make it up for you or tell her staight up that youre not into unsure women like her. if it doesnt work out ignore her and move on, shes not the only girl in the world....and let your experiences serve as a lesson for the future

 

[Ol'BlueEyes]

...After she was reluctant to suggest any other place for us to go,she didn't contact me in any way.Neither did I. I haven't said anything rude or appeared to be pissed off. I hope that she had some interest in me and will eventually call me.

Verdict is.......she's not interested. Move on. Hardly the type of behavior from a girl who "wanted to make it up to you" the first time you planned a date.

ALL of the women I tried to date,I have to drag them by their feet or convience them that it is worth their fukking time to go out with me.! Doesn't do any good to my selfesteem. Why can't they want to go out with me because I am this good and worthy person to let me into their life?

Geez, don't try so hard!!! Women have a keen sense of smell, and they smell desperation on you.
Have any of these girls you've asked out shown any interest in you? Do they smile at you, give you eye contact?