"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Randomly told me she has a hot tub, etc. (there's more) good come back?

jnMissouri

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I've had a couple other girls who had hot tubs (albeit at their parents) who invited me over outright. This girl I've been flirting with on POF randomly told me at the end of a conversation she has a hot tub...Like BTW I have a hot tub. We were already set to meet up for drinks Saturday at a bar.

So my initial response to her hot tub comment was that my chiseled body would go good with that hot tub, but she has to promise to control herself. She sent an lol, then followed by a "I make no promises..." 7 minutes later.

This is where I often muck it up. By either being too eager/pushy or too aloof. So what's a good come back? Mind you she said she likes the fact that I took the lead in setting up the date, she likes it when a man leads. So maybe I should just invite myself over? By saying something like, would you prefer I bring champagne or wine?

Or stick with something like the below:

-I make a few promises (eluding to ****ing her good).
-You can at least wine and dine me first...
-I'm not a peace of meat, I'm a real person...
-Other ideas?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Never mind, no responses here so I told her to guess what my promise would be. She got excited and was like tell me tell me!

So I told her I'd whisper it in her ear while we're in the tub drinking champagne...
 

Julian

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dont overthink this bro. play it cool u got this in the bag. any chick who still shows interest after a "my chiseled body and that hot tub would look great together" comment is defintely DTF. lol. DONT oversell tho comes off kinda corny but you could get away with anything at this point since shes showing such high interest. also you havent met her yet so she could be a wierdo, autist, catfish etc.
 
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