"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Random thought about Girls with BF's

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I got it.

Not talking to a girl because she has a Boyfriend is the equivlant of not selling a person a car because they already have one.

If a car salesman honestly took "I like my car" as a valid objection, they woudln't be selling cars very long. And it's nothing "sleezy" about it, it's just showing someone their latent needs. To sell someone something, you have to fufill a need. At times, you may not realize you have a particular need.

Perfect example, if you would have asked me to spend 10k on surgery 2 months ago, I would have said NO, because NOTHING IS WRONG with me.

However, while I was visiting the doctor about a month ago, the doctor noticed i had a bone growing out the side of my knee, very very small, but if not treated, could eventually cause some serious pain in my right knee.

Now that I had a NEED to get surgery, I had no problem with it.

If you told a girl "hey date me instead of your BF" she will say "hey, I am happy with my BF right now". She mgiht be, she might be lying, or she might not realize what exactly she is missing out on.

One girl I got about 5 months ago, after she told me she was happy with her man, and how they had all this great sex, etc, etc, ovbiously she she had never had her pvssy ate out, never tried anal sex, the guy was basically a guy with a dead end job, yet she sucked his **** like there was no tomorrow. I gave her MY number, and about a week and a half later she gave me a call, and we ended up doing.. eventually, all of thoose things that her bF didn't do, we were "experimenting", then I slapped her on the ass and sent her right back home with him.

Is it really wrong if I am driving a say.. Honda and I happen to run into a guy that sales me on a Toyota? Is the Totyota salesman really that bad of a guy for selling me another car? Am I wrong for takign the other car? NO, what matters is I feel that, this car, at this time in my life, fits my needs better. Tip your hat to the salesman, and try to learn why you didn't sell him another honda instead. The customers you take care of, follow up with constantly, will always be loyal. You don't give your customers a reasont o wonder off.

As the toyota salesman, I can't be concerned about the honda salesman. **** em. I mean that's just the way it has to be. I have to eat. I have to put food ont he table.

Same with women. I want sex. I want companionship. It's not my job to give a **** about your realationship, and it's your job to take care of it. Think of it this way, if I am successful, hopefually you won't marry her and ruin your life. You need to write me a check for my services.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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There is one very big difference between cars and girls who have boyfriends, your former car doesn't have the capacity to stand up and fight for itself once it has been rejected, ex boyfriends however do have this capacity and can often vent their anger and retribution upon the guy who snatches their girlfriend away from them, this is treading along a very thin line, I know that I don't wish for someone to find my body face down in a lake or a river somewhere in the near future, so if you don't want to enter an early grave, then don't touch another guys girl, or else you could strike it very bad, it is a very sad world that we live in, but if you keep your own hands clean you will probably live a much longer and happier life, who wants to always be looking over their shoulders, I know that I don't, so I only go for girls who are single when I meet them, it is the smartest way. :trouble: :kick: :yes:
 

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True, but another difference between cars and a girls bf. The girl 'should' be emotionally attached to her boyfriend, whereas if she was emotionally attached to her car, then I'd consider her wacked.

Imagine if she became your boyfriend, and did the same thing to you. Now, if an opportunity came up, I'd take it so long as she breaks up with her bf BEFORE she gets into a relationship with me. And she has to show some kind of remorse/guilt (I don't want a girl who can just say 'hey hon, I found a better guy. See ya).
 

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Actually there might not be repercussions for doing anything with a lady already hooked up. I have seen the forces of Karma at work though. Can't say anyone has been directly punished but life seems to find a way to balance out things. I had two friends. For this I will name them friend1 and friend2. Friend1 and Friend2 shared an apartment together. Friend2 got engaged. Friend2's fiance started cheating with Friend1. Fiance blows off Friend2 for Friend1. Friend2 gets 2 more bad relationships until he meets and marries an HB8. Friend1 got married to Friend2's exfiance. Friend1 had children by her. Friend1 got caught stealing computer parts at a company and is no longer able to get a steady job for a good long time. Loses several apartments (Kept looking for cheaper places until he could no longer afford the apartment). Friend1's now wife starts cheating on him.
 

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you are smoking if you think people don't get emotionally attached to cars. Even men.

Old Billy has had that pickup truck for 10 years and it has gotten him from home to work, and he takes care of it like he would a child, and you couldn't give him enough money to trade it in becasue that's his baby.

Did you not read my post? Stop asking stupid ass questions. "how would you feel if he did it to you?".. you really wanna know? How about reading the damn post and drawing your own conclusion. I would tip my hat to the guy, and figure out what I did to make her available and try to figure out what he did to be sucessful and learn from my mistake. I'm not going to beat his ass or have a vendetta against him. It's a cold world, you have to look out for yourself, and that's all he was doing. Id on't expect him to give a **** about me. Stop acting like fvcking pussies. When it's all said and done, you don't care about their relationship, youc are about getting your ass stomped
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I see what your saying, its not to hard to take girls who have bfs I find I can get them more attracted quickier don't know why. Some good examples in my life would be...

this 1 girl who my friend goes out with she is constantly kino me. Before when her bf used to be around she wouldn't do sh!t with me show a whole bunch of IODs.

This one girl who has a bf(I found out later) approached me and was trying to seek rapport, but I wasn't interested because she only had a pretty face no body. (I love body over face)

Another one I knew she had a bf at one point but couldn't tell if they still go out because she would always tell me to sit by her, give me IOIs like crazy, rest her leg up on me, and we even walked arm and arm around the school. (Where was her bf?)

This hbbigbreast girl goes out with my friend little does he know I used to kino her alot. (playing with her breast) I stopped though because I'm cool with the kid but now when she see me she always runs up to hug me whether her bf is there or not.

This one girl I was suppose to game but I was being gay back in october, she gave me everything in the damn book. (IOIs,AIs, Kino,etc) I used to just act disinterested like a fool until last month I started talking to her, never would have known she had a bf. When school starts up again though I'm fuvking her.

Last one that I can remember off the top of my head is this girl I gamed on and off, kind of like a Push/Pull dynamic. Well she end going out with my friend, he fuvked her and she is so close with him now. Every time I C&F she says no my boo wouldn't like that and all this crap. But yet my hands still rubs on her thighs, she wanted to see my divk, She put lip gloss on my lip right after she finish using it, drinks from same cup, etc.

I never really care about that bf crap anymore cause it doesn't mean much just mean someone is with her but she knows if she finds a better guy she would drop him. How do you think alot of these guys in the community are fuvking married women.
 

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You are calling me a PU-SSY because I would not CONGRATULATE some WAN-KER who stole my girlfriend off me, come on, who are you KIDDING, take my girlfriend and you PAY a VERY HIGH PRICE I'm affraid, I don't know where your mind set is at, I fight for what I want and I don't just sit around and let other guys take things off me without putting up a fight, you are the WIMP not me, I fight to keep what I think I should have. :yes:
 

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backbreaker said:
Did you not read my post? Stop asking stupid ass questions. "how would you feel if he did it to you?".. you really wanna know? How about reading the damn post and drawing your own conclusion. I would tip my hat to the guy, and figure out what I did to make her available and try to figure out what he did to be sucessful and learn from my mistake. I'm not going to beat his ass or have a vendetta against him. It's a cold world, you have to look out for yourself, and that's all he was doing. Id on't expect him to give a **** about me. Stop acting like fvcking pussies. When it's all said and done, you don't care about their relationship, youc are about getting your ass stomped
Dude, backbreaker, nice try but you can't justify stealing another guys gf. So you would tip to a guy that so-happen to steal your gf hypothetically. I agree with some of what you're saying but you can't justify stealing a guys gf, its the same thing like a thief robbing a bank.
 

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it's like if somebody left their wallet on a table i have 2 options-
1. stop that person and feel good about giving them back their hard earned money.
2. take the money and feel dirty about whatever i buy with it. finders keepers.

i would pick 1 only because i would want somebody to do the same for me.

i've been hit on by guys girlfriends and it disgusts me. i know i'm a great guy and i don't need somebodies girlfriend to remind me of that. there's to many single girls out there.

i just can't see how much of an ego boost that would be to steal some guys woman. call me old fashion but i meet women the old school way
 

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ProtoMan1 said:
. So you would tip to a guy that so-happen to steal your gf hypothetically. I

EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


WHY THE **** NOT?


You can't be hypocritical. You can't be on top of the world when a girl leaves her man for you, then want to beat someones ass if/when it happens to you.

It goes back to taking the **** too damn seriously. I mean, I am 23 freakin years old. In all honestly, I don't give too much of a damn about anyone I know now, at least women wise. She leaves? Okay, find someone else to ****.

You guys act like you are in your golden years of life and you have been with your girls for 20 something years. AT that point, I could see an arguement being made. you have an established live together. You are truely living as one.

But some chick that has been dating her BF for 3 months? You think I honeslty give a ****? And visa versa. You think he gives a **** if I have been dating a girl for 3 months, and she put it on me and I am head over heels in love with a girl I have no business settling down with?

And yes, it's happened to me. A couple of times. Mainly because I just don't have enough time to manage some of these womens egos. I might get to see a girl 2 times a week. Might. Her best bet is to come over my house and watch me work utnil she goes to sleep and we can sleep int he same bed. But Id on't have time, nor do I want to have time, to spend entire days "falling in love" with a girl who can be replaced in a heartbeat. And everytime I said "oh well" and moved on to the next prospect. No hostility, no pinned up anger, nothing of the sort. I am still cool with a couple of them, and I even have had sex with a couple on a couple of occussions after the deal was done.

That goes back to my original post.

Why do you honeslty give a **** if a girl you are dating NOW leaves you? The average life span for a guy is about 77 years old. And you have 18 year olds acting like it's the end of the world, ready to risk life in prision, blowing 59 years you have left remaining on this earth in prision to kill a guy, or even hurt a guy, over a girl that odds are, you aren't going to be with in a year anyway.

The most painful thing, relationship wise that ever happened to me was when I was 18, and the girl Iw as with, not only cheated on me, lost her virginity to another guy. That **** was painful at the time. It honeslty was. And for a while, I resented the guy.

However, if I saw him now, I honeslty owe that guy the world, becuase if it weren't for him, I would have been stuck with her, probably would have married her out of my nieveness. And now she works at KFC and has 3 kids.

Another girl, actually the girl I dated right after that, cheated on me with this guy who she met at a party, she left me, dated him for like 6 months. We worked together, and everyday at work she made itk nown how she was getting ****ed senseless.

by this time, iw as smart enough not to resent the guy, but now I resnted her. BTW, this was 5 years ago, in the prime of my AFCness. I saw her about 6 months ago, and she can't even look at me. She got kicked out of college, she works at Chili's full time and is dating (and getting cheated on might I add) by a 17 year old.. she's 22.

Not to say that's karma, but these are girls that when I step back and look at it in the long picture, we weren't going to get married, at least I had no business marring them. Any woman that is going to be my wife, her screwing another guy for thrills is the least of my concerns.

It's all a game, a game that alot of people take too damn seriously. Alot of guys egos are tied up into their women. So when she leaves, they are hurt to the point to where they will do anything to replentish that feeling.

Thoose are the guys that hunt you down, and I ahve had THAT happen before. A guy, after about 3 months of me screwing his wife, confronted me, and he was pissed. And I basically told him, that if it wasn't me, it would have been someone else, and that in all honeslty I did him a favor. He made a mistake getting married when he was 17 and now he can take control of his life and make something out of it. That guy is one of my good friends believe it or not now, and he thanks for me "waking him up"
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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ProtoMan1 said:
you can't justify stealing a guys gf, its the same thing like a thief robbing a bank.
No, it's not like robbing a bank. If you hook up with a girl, it takes two to tango. SHE wants to do be with you as much as you want to be with her. You aren't raping her.
 

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it's like if somebody left their wallet on a table i have 2 options-
1. stop that person and feel good about giving them back their hard earned money.
2. take the money and feel dirty about whatever i buy with it. finders keepers.

i would pick 1 only because i would want somebody to do the same for me.

i've been hit on by guys girlfriends and it disgusts me. i know i'm a great guy and i don't need somebodies girlfriend to remind me of that. there's to many single girls out there.

i just can't see how much of an ego boost that would be to steal some guys woman. call me old fashion but i meet women the old school way

and there in lies your problem. You just said what is wrong with most people on this forum

"i just cant' see how much of an ego boost that would be to steal some guys woman"


who said anything about an ego boost. As a matter of fact, you just proved what I said in the above post. Your ego shouldn't be tied into a woman, or getting a woman, or a woman's precption of you. However, your problem, not necessarly yours, but you get what I am saying, is that it clearly IS.

I mean I am human, don't get me wrong, and of course I like when people like me, but more importantly, I work hard on myself, mentally, physically and emotionally to where I Know where I am, I know what I am and what I am not. I don't need a woman to reconfirm that.


When I meet a woman, BF or not, I have a rule.. if my **** gets hard when I am talking/looking at her, I am going to make a move. If she rejects me she rejects me, but I will not have tried. My **** is hard because I want to **** her, plain and simple. And If i am successful, I will keep ****ing her until the relationship, whatever type it is, ends. And I will not be mad becuase I am not ****ing her anymore, I will be thankful of the times.... not thankful, but happy, about the times I did get to **** her.

See when your ego gets in the way of you talking to women, you can't treat them like you are supposed to. You can't put your foot down when you need to, how you need to, because you are afraid they might walk. You won't approach a woman becuase you are afaid you might get rejected, which would be a blow to your ego.

Ego is nothing but a precption of yourself. Most guys have nothing going for them in reallity, so they choose to hone in on other peoples precption of them (i.e womens). The guys that "get it" don't really give a mind what you think about them, because they know what they are and what they are not.
 
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lol... If some one took my girl then she didn't deserve me. Yes it would suck, but maybe some of us take this **** too seriously. Personally that would be a big favor for me, cause I'm looking for something most of us here aren't: The One. My stance is she's got to prove her self to me. If she can't or doesn't measure up, then next.

ADKdj
 

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If I met a hot babe who already had a boyfriend I would expect her to end her relationship before I got involved.

I don't believe in keeping girls as my prisoner but if she was to fall for another guy I would expect her to be honest about it rather than her be Fu-cking both me and him without my knowing about it.

It just isn't the right thing to do to a man. :D
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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I kinda got the same reasoning with women. I mean its bros b4 hoes, but fvck anyone I dont know or I am neutral with. Why should I pvssyfoot around some girl because she got someone else? The mentality seems to be instilled strongly in backbreaker because he had it done a couple times to him. It isnt anything wrong with it, although it has a somewhat misogynistic tone from backbreaker imo. What you guys dont seem to understand is that he isnt STEALING your gf, because she was never yours. She is her own person and she can make decisions on who she sleeps with and what she does.

Also people need to reread the part about people wasting their lifes on girls which in all probability wont be around this time next year...
 

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Sicarius said:
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Sicarius, on the weekend just gone, two 17 year old boys assaulted another 17 year old boy with an axe and an iron bar because he refused to give them a cigarette outside of a McDonalds Restraunt in my own city so I wouldn't be so smug, a hot babe to most is a lot more valuable than one or two cigarettes I would think, it all depends on the emotional state of the guy involved as well as his levels of anger, some will kill for a cigarette and others wouldn't kill to save their own lives, the worse off that the persons living standards are the more likely it is that they will become violent, it isn't a joke, the world is full of desperate people, :mad:
 

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backbreaker said:
I got it.

Not talking to a girl because she has a Boyfriend is the equivlant of not selling a person a car because they already have one.

If a car salesman honestly took "I like my car" as a valid objection, they woudln't be selling cars very long. And it's nothing "sleezy" about it, it's just showing someone their latent needs. To sell someone something, you have to fufill a need. At times, you may not realize you have a particular need.
If you dont consider lieing to someone sleezy please update your moral code. This need youre talking about, btw, is a "want." If they like their car and it runs fine they dont need crap. A car salesman just wants you to have the grass is greener mentality and the desire to keep up with the Joneses. Needs, my ass. Sleezy.
 

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backbreaker said:
One girl I got about 5 months ago, after she told me she was happy with her man, and how they had all this great sex, etc, etc, ovbiously she she had never had her pvssy ate out, never tried anal sex,
So basically she was happy and content and you had to fill her mind with doubts and make her unhappy. Good job.

Ignorance is bliss. If you tell me there are women from Jupiter who will suck d1ck 5 times a day and have 4 large firm breasts they like to give full body massages with and never expect anything in return youre just gonna make me sad cause i know theyre out there and i can never have one and im stuck with a lousy earth chick. haha.
 

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backbreaker said:
But some chick that has been dating her BF for 3 months? You think I honeslty give a ****? And visa versa. You think he gives a **** if I have been dating a girl for 3 months, and she put it on me and I am head over heels in love with a girl I have no business settling down with?
You think i give a sh1t you just crushed your leg when a tree branch fell on your leg? I mean it is only pain. Its just in your mind. Someone else will come along and help you anyway. I have to look out for MYSELF anyway... i have a hair appointment i couldnt reschedule for two weeks. Best wishes!
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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