"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Random girl messages me on FB

Cantgetitright

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History: 26yr old, male. Havn't been with a girl in almost 7yrs, and havn't been in many relationships in general. Not terrible looking, just shy, passive, not big into the bar scene, never go out anymore.

SO I am pretty outspoken on my political beliefs on facebook and argue with a few of my friends regularly, whatever. This chick messages me the other day about an argument, she used to work with one of the friends I was arguing with. We have similar views and began chatting back and forth. Eventually I switched politics to small talk and we've been messaging each other for a few days now. Our messages lately seem to fade from a few minute responses, to an hour to respond, to hours to respond. Usually she ends up messaging me back after I pass out and ill respond sometime the next day, usually later in the day and our convo will continue..

Today she casually mentioned she has a bf.. but, I kind of knew that. My friend told me her bf is a "tool" and basically told me I should ask her to hangout. She is younger, 21. Seems really cool, cute and smart. We have a bunch of common interests. I havnt asked her out.. yet. Normally by now I would of mustered up enough courage to ask the girl if she wanted to meet up and hang out, but now, especially since she mentioned him I am kinda thinking of just bailing on the idea.

I don't want to fall into the "friendzone" so I am thinking of either not talking to her and bailing or being alittle more aggressive / flirty, making my intentions clear and possibly just flat out ask her if she wants to meet up sometime.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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El Payaso

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From minutes to hours to respond, she's just using you for attention.
 

Von

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Just ask her out in a fun fashion.

You've been talking a lot. Tell her, ''I am going to this cool new place XXXX, come join me'', ''here are my digits, what is yours''

Longer you wait the more she'll friendzone you, I had experience where the girl mentionned her boyfriend just to see if it would stop you from sleeping with her (yep, sometimes they want to cheat)

In my case, it did stop me... but I had several others at the same time and was more stupid back than

At least you'll be in the clear.

PS: Work on yourself, gym/dance/run, passions.... be healthy mentally to be healthy physically... politics is good.... Girls in politics like to XXXX alot
 

BeExcellent

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Boyfriend schmoyfriend. If she isn't married she's fair game. What Von said. Do that. If that doesn't work get yourself out of the house and interact with other people some way. Join the Jaycees or young (whatever your political affiliation is) or get active in a local campaign. Actually do that even if you do get her on a date. Something about your viewpoint, wit, and brain appeals to this woman. That is good! Just carry on the same way you have bantered online with her in a live setting and it might just go great!

And for heavens sake quit analyzing the text convo like it's the Rosetta Stone or the Dead Sea Scrolls. Women and men both do WAY too much of that.
 
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Dude, grow some balls and take a chance. The fk is wrong with you?"Muster up the courage".. What the ??? This is simple chit man! SHe messaged you first too? Got dam...

Sorry a bit irritated. I need to realize not everyone is the same.. lol

If you got a skype get at me ASAP. I'll try my best to help you stop being a "little *****" (not trying to offend you man. just calling it how it is!)
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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