Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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Random B!tchiness and Frame Control

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Hey gentlemen,

I've been seeing a new plate for a few days now. Typically, I'll give a woman 2 red flags before blowing her off permanently.

The first red flag was her blowing up on me (10 minutes of raging/venting). I said something that pissed her off and she started having a tantrum. Having grown up with emotionally volatile women, I can typically handle them very well, and they don't throw me off like they would most men. I basically just told her if she wants to talk, she needs to behave like an adult, and I finished my drink and watched the game. I essentially calmed her down, and let her spill her guts/cry about what it was that had her so pissed (things that had nothing to do with me).

I distanced myself for a few days, and I didn't respond to her texts after this happened. I found it funny how prior to this event she never sent any texts. I just assumed she was the hard to get type, and since her responses were always positive when I contacted her, it wasn't a big deal.

Last night we met up again, and things seemed relatively fine. Some sexual escalation and decent conversation. Then she starts in again with a few random *****y remarks clearly aimed at pissing me off. I didn't respond defensively. In fact, I didn't even call her on it. I basically just laughed it off and didn't pay much attention to it.

We're all used to the standard sh!t tests from women we initially contact. We handle them skillfully and treat the b!tchiness as interest.

What is the best way to handle these sh!t tests that come up after the initial meetings?

There are some who would argue that remaining unshakable during a woman's emotional tizzy is the manly move (one of the 16 commandments of poon, be the oak tree). Others would argue you're a beta fool for putting up with it. Others would argue that if you don't put her in her place, she'll think you're a weak spineless tool.

I'd like to assume I handled this the right way since she tried extensively to contact me the next day.

People aren't perfect, and every woman I'm dating or have dated has had some undesirable qualities. I've accepted that as a man in my 30's, it's probably a wise move to expect women in the same age range to have some level of baggage, so I work with it. Where do we draw the line? What is the best way to handle this woman's completely unexpected b!tchiness? Is this just straight up disrespect?

Just when you think you've got your game down, the curveball comes.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Great question.....wish I knew the answer. I've tried the same things as you. I've used the let it blow over method and don't say much. I've called them out on it and argue with their nonsense. I've also let them know if they didn't stop I was walking out of the room.

I think it happens for a variety of reasons. One reason women do this is because this is their way of acting out and trying to communicate they are feeling insecure.

Another reason is because they love drama so much. This gets them all emotionally fired up inside.

In the end most women truly are little girls and they are emotional not rational. I don't think there is a end all to it. They just aren't capable of what men are. You just deal with it and have another beer.

After my girlfriend throws her tantrums she always says "I just want you to hold me and love me...thats all I need". I laugh inside thinking how can you expect someone to hold and love a raging tiger that is mad at the jungle?"
Silly biatches.
 

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I dont think there is any problem is a girl screaming and b1tching, the real problem is when she is cold and uninterested.

In fact showing such strong emotions to/against you means that she considers you important, therefore you have ground to play.

Personally when a girl is angry at me I feel very satisfied and my trolling on her gives me even more satisfaction, sarcams and teasing facial expression on a angry women are things which gives me a satisfaction very other thing do but to each his own.

Regarding your question, its hard to tell which one is the best reaction since it depends on the relationship, who you are and who she is.

As long as you dont apologize or "lower your head for the couple harmony" its all ok.
 

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Dear Origen,
Why bother with someone like the Women you describe,her behaviour is abnormal...by accepting you encourage her,next thing she will become violent...if you just want to pump and dump,fine but otherwise take care Will Robinson!
 

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Origin- how attractive is this girl? Would she make the top 15pct?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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I've seen the best turn around/reaction to a woman like you described from a former friend.

She was all up in his face *****ing in a fit of rage basically rejecting him for his approach and all he did was stay calm and say:

"you are making me so hot right now, you need to stop it's such a turn on!"

and he kept drilling that response without a care in the world. She eventually started laughing and her mood did a complete 180, she was impressed with how he handled it.

Now I'm not saying this will work all the time, but it was damn funny and profound to witness. Give it a go, worse case scenario she hates you anyway :crackup:
 

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scrouds said:
Reframing to the sexual should be in every man's toolbox.
Amen to that. It's one of my most favorite and effective "tool" you can never feel rejected by doing this.
 

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***UPDATE***

Went out with her again tonight loaded with steely resolve to walk out at the first sign of deliberate *****iness/rudeness/needling. As we were drinking our wine, she looked at me and said, "You come from strong stock. Most men would have been out the door by now. In fact, I laid it on very thick with you. We women test a lot, this way we can sift the wheat from the chaff and keep those who would hurt us away from us."

Victory.

Lessons I learned from this:

Never lose my frame or focus on my mission REGARDLESS of what she says she wants in a man.

Make romantic interest known quickly.

This girl was deliberately testing me to see if I would switch my values/goals/ideals over the course of a few dates to fit her laundry list of the ideal man. It didn't happen, and she picked up on it.

By being clear about who I am, where I'm going, and being completely independent and in control of my life, I passed her sh!t tests with minimal effort and didn't even realize it.

Thanks for the input gentlemen, I was 1 sh!tty remark away from tossing this one.
 
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LOL, she's just setting you up for the next one. She gave you a false sense of security. Prepare for a nuclear holocaust.

She will feel compelled to "test" you forever.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Chalking this one up to another lesson hard learned.

Wish I knew why this sh!t keeps happening.
 
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