"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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happymeal88

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Long time reader, new poster....

Called up a girl this morning around noon and we talked for about two minutes. I asked her what she was doing today in the hopes of hanging out, but she said she had pratice from 1 to 4. But then she said "what are you doing tonight?" and when I said "Not sure yet" she said "Call me, I'll talk to you later" and we said our good-byes.

Should I call her? I don't want to seem desperate, but I do want to go out with her.

Thanks.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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oakraiderz2

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Go out with your friends then give her a call.
 

Jerky Boi

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Call her but make sure you're already busy doing something and maybe set something up another day.
 

McKindley

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Yea, go out with the guys, and give her a call, "hey, I'm out with the guys, but I remembered I was supposed to call you. You can hang out with us if you like."

If she isn't down with that, tell her, "I'll be giving you a call in a few days. We'll set something up then."

And then do that. Just don't call her if you're just sitting around the house with nothing to do. That type of stuff is fine if she's just a friend, but if you're looking for ass, you need to at least pretend that you have more going on in your life than you do.
 
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