"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Question for the veteran fellas in relationships...

Atom Smasher

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You know what, my man, I'm going to give it to you straight up because I'm not sure if you're just naive or an arrogant wise-ass.

You sound and think just like a woman. You just did what women do... Someone gives you sound advice, and you then counter with a silly, downright ridiculous extreme.

You certainly are confused (your words). VERY confused.

Stop disrespecting the men on this site who legitimately offered the advice that you asked for. I think it's clear that both you and your girlfriend deserve each other.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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OP, now that I understand what you're asking (which is not what you originally asked), I find you question too vague. You're saying she's a challenging person who will go toe-to-toe with you every once and a while. What specifically do you want advice on? How to stand your ground and not lose face or something?

"how do you deal with a girlfriend that WILL state her opinion on any and everything that bothers her?" -- you just accept that and either agree or disagree with her. I don't know what kind of advice we can really give you on this, is it somehow damaging your relationship? I like a woman who can speak her mind too, it leads to more interesting conversation... So what is your specific problem with her challenging nature? You would like to lessen the disagreements? You'd like to approach them a different way? I'm not understanding what kind of advice you seek.


I understand where you're coming from now that you've clarified, but it seems to vague for any of us to help. You have to also consider that most posters here are going to advocate a strict take-it-or-leave-it approach to relationships. You've been here long enough to know that's a given.
 

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handle said:
OP, now that I understand what you're asking (which is not what you originally asked), I find you question too vague. You're saying she's a challenging person who will go toe-to-toe with you every once and a while. What specifically do you want advice on? How to stand your ground and not lose face or something?

"how do you deal with a girlfriend that WILL state her opinion on any and everything that bothers her?" -- you just accept that and either agree or disagree with her. I don't know what kind of advice we can really give you on this, is it somehow damaging your relationship? I like a woman who can speak her mind too, it leads to more interesting conversation... So what is your specific problem with her challenging nature? You would like to lessen the disagreements? You'd like to approach them a different way? I'm not understanding what kind of advice you seek.


I understand where you're coming from now that you've clarified, but it seems to vague for any of us to help. You have to also consider that most posters here are going to advocate a strict take-it-or-leave-it approach to relationships. You've been here long enough to know that's a given.
He's "vauge" because he's backtracking/lying to save face.
 

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Thatfeel21 said:
Ok, so we all know females LOVE drama..If your girl is the argumentative type, how do you balance between arguing with her to give her her 'drama' feed and just ignoring her? Its impossible to win an argument with a woman and my newest gf (of 4 months) is the epitomy of that phrase. Thoughts?
The best drama is the absence drama: Where you disappear for a long time, no show dates or ignore calls completely then pretend nothing happened.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I sense that the OP is trying to figure out how to give her the satisfaction she gets from drama without arguing.

Women will get their drama from a multitude of sources. Arguing with their man is one way, however many women will get their drama fix from listening to their girlfriends and/or other people's drama. They can also get it from reading romance novels, watching soaps, or playing online video games.

It sounds as if you chose a woman who likes getting her drama fix from relationships. Do yourself a favor and find a woman who prefers one of the more indirect types of drama. It'll cause you a lot less stress.

And quit trying to make excuses for the bytch.
 
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